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My washing machine motor won't work, changed the brushes and cleaned commutator as one brush has broken up in housing, causing a a short as smoke came out while on a spin, control pcb is clicking every 30seconds while i run a spin cycle so assuming its ok. How can i check the motor further, i.e is there a themal fuse or which terminals out of 6 on the the conn'r can I meter across to check for volts.Model is WFL12440gb/05, fd8502, 700959.The motor is 1200 spin held in with 2 bolts/screws with easy access brush change at the sides.many thanks.

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brushes usually available on ebay,

if the drum rotates but does not spin, this could likely be brushes or component problem (i.e triac or relay) on control PCB. - the latter was the problem i had and this was easily spotted as a blackened track on the Relay on the pcb.

Brushes should be ~£5. - check the existing brushes first before buying them.

fitting is easy, BUT a word of warning..which you probably know anyway..
before meddling though in the machine, locate the large capacitor and with electical screwdriver and discharge all the terminals to earth first! - YOU MUST DO THIS TO AVOID ELECTRIC SHOCK!! - even if the machine is unplugged.

remove motor & undo the back plate to release old brushes.
clean of motor of any excess carbon dust, - this can eventually cause arching if not cleaned away.

reassemble and fit all plugs back.
THEN TAKE 5 MINUTES TO CHECK WHAT YOU HAVE DONE BEFORE SWITCHING ON. -
Do not rush anything - take your time.

Posted on Apr 26, 2008

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I do not have access to the literature for this exact model. But in my experience with this company the service panel is a large panel in the rear or side. If you can open the unit up the motor is the most distinguishable item in the washer. Then it should just be 3-4 wires and a matter of removing the 4 bolts that bolt it to the chassis. Then once you have the motor out if you know how to change the brushes it will be easy. If not you can always take it to a local electric motor shop that does motor rebuilds. Theres is about 3 locally to me that cost between $25-$70 a motor depending on the motor. but to do it yourself the brushes kit usually cost 15-30 dollars.

now if you wanted to check the motor you can always getting electric motor cleaner and spray the motor a little bit while its inside the unit. Then you can see when it runs if it still is laggy and has a burnt hot smell. If this occurs then you most likely need it to be rebuilt. It is not always the brushes that need changing sometimes the armature of the motor has warped which is causing excess wear on the commutator which makes it lose contact with the brushes. This can cause it to either wear through or make an excessive gap between the two.

oh and dont attempt to access it from the bottom this can cause damage to the unit and/or injury to self.

Hope this helped in some way if you need further assistance feel free to leave more info and i will be glad to assist you.

thanks,
Nate

Posted on Aug 22, 2008

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I just did this. Fitting the new brushes was fiddly but not impossible. Its easier if you remove the motor first as this makes access a lot easier.

Posted on Sep 05, 2008

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how do you remove the brushes on a Bosch Classixx 1200 washing machine?

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SOURCE: Bosch Axxis WFL 2060 Washer, not spinning.

IF THERE IS BLACK DUST UNDER THE MOTOR IT IS USUALL DEAD. YOU CAN REMOVE MOTOR FROM THE BACK I HAVE DON IT. YOU NEED A METER TO CHECK THE MOTOR. I CAN HELP.

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