Home Logo

Related Topics:

d
darelene balzer Posted on Nov 25, 2014
Answered by a Fixya Expert

Trustworthy Expert Solutions

At Fixya.com, our trusted experts are meticulously vetted and possess extensive experience in their respective fields. Backed by a community of knowledgeable professionals, our platform ensures that the solutions provided are thoroughly researched and validated.

View Our Top Experts

Why does my blazeking wood burning stove get creasote in the fire box and how do i get it out?

Chipping it out with a screw driver

4 Answers

rtpflh

Level 3:

An expert who has achieved level 3 by getting 1000 points

All-Star:

An expert that got 10 achievements.

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

Vice President:

An expert whose answer got voted for 100 times.

  • Master 546 Answers
  • Posted on Nov 25, 2014
rtpflh
Master
Level 3:

An expert who has achieved level 3 by getting 1000 points

All-Star:

An expert that got 10 achievements.

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

Vice President:

An expert whose answer got voted for 100 times.

Joined: Sep 20, 2009
Answers
546
Questions
1
Helped
243991
Points
1828

Hi Darlene,
Creosote consists of combustion byproducts,[smoke] that gradually builds up in the stove & chimney.MOISTURE in the wood,and slow burning greatly increase build-up. 1/4 '' of creosote is considered a hazard. Consult a professional chimney sweep,then burn only 'seasoned' dry hardwood,and when you start or re-kindle the fire,burn it hot enough to thoroughly heat the flue; this will draw the smoke up the chimney faster,decreasing the time build-up can occur. Stay Warm!

Henry OTani

Level 2:

An expert who has achieved level 2 by getting 100 points

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

New Friend:

An expert that has 1 follower.

Hot-Shot:

An expert who has answered 20 questions.

  • Expert 58 Answers
  • Posted on Nov 25, 2014
Henry OTani
Expert
Level 2:

An expert who has achieved level 2 by getting 100 points

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

New Friend:

An expert that has 1 follower.

Hot-Shot:

An expert who has answered 20 questions.

Joined: Aug 18, 2014
Answers
58
Questions
1
Helped
17143
Points
161

It is 'feature' of wood to produce tar and creosote when heated.. This is how tar and creosote is made from wood...

The mechanism it that the various substances in the smoke, even if combustible oils, do not burn sufficiently in the absence of oxygen and condense on the cooler walls of the stove.A lining in the firebox reduces condensation/..

Mainly the (cold) chimney eventually gets clogged with thick deposits.


http://www.woofwoodfuel.co.uk/chimney-cleaners.php

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stovax-Protector-Chimney-Cleaner-Sachets/dp/B002VRTH9K

Ad

Lesley Cameron

Level 3:

An expert who has achieved level 3 by getting 1000 points

All-Star:

An expert that got 10 achievements.

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

Master:

An expert who has achieved Level 3.

  • Master 371 Answers
  • Posted on Nov 25, 2014
Lesley Cameron
Master
Level 3:

An expert who has achieved level 3 by getting 1000 points

All-Star:

An expert that got 10 achievements.

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

Master:

An expert who has achieved Level 3.

Joined: Apr 28, 2014
Answers
371
Questions
1
Helped
185743
Points
7266

Here is an easy-to-understand article on this topic. In my opinion, given the hazards, I'd suggest using a professional to properly clean and remove this build up. You can google/search 'chimney sweep' for someone in your area and to shop pricing. Hope this info helps!

Wood: Creosote from Wood Burning - Causes and Solutions

Burning wood, no matter how you do it, releases pollutants, mainly in the form of gases and particulate matter. There is no avoiding this but, how these things are dealt with in your wood burning appliance can vary greatly - not only in the type of stove you choose but in how you operate it. One of the main dangers of wood burning is the excessive build up of creosote in chimneys and stove pipes.

Creosote is a gummy, foul smelling, corrosive and extremely combustible substance that, if no precautions are taken, will coat the insides of everything it passes through. It is formed when volatile gases given off in the burning process combine and condense on their way out of the chimney.

The gases leave the burning wood with the smoke. If the smoke is cooled below 250 degrees F, the gases liquefy, combine, and solidify, forming creosote. Creosote takes several forms, all bad. As a liquid, it can run down the insides of pipes and chimneys, oozing out of any openings. It can form a hard layer coating the insides of pipes and chimney liners. It can form into a fluffy substance that plugs pipes and breaks off and falls down, filling low spots in piping. It is the cause of most chimney fires and the main reason chimneys and pipes have to be cleaned and inspected periodically.

Many of you are old enough to remember the rush of people buying wood stoves in the oil embargo days. As a result, the early 1970s saw an explosion of companies formed to meet that demand. If you remember that, you might also remember the rush of people abandoning wood heating and the demise of many of the companies manufacturing those stoves.

It wasn't that these stoves were all bad or that people were all foolish. What happened was that, number one, the EPA imposed pollution standards on the manufacturers that they were either unable or unwilling to meet and, number two, the people who bought these stoves came face to face with the fact that operating wood stoves is a combination of science and art, a large part of which is dealing with creosote.

The revolution in stove design in the 70's was the introduction of the "airtight" stove. No more getting up in the night to feed the stove; you just pack it full of wood and choke the air way down so as to produce a long, slow burn. Where formerly, you controlled the burn by limiting fuel to the stove, the new way limited air. The benefit of this was a long nights sleep. The price was a chimney full of creosote.

An air starved, slow burn, produces relatively cool stack temps ideal for creosote formation. People would get up in the morning to a warm house, not realizing they also had a system partially plugged with a highly flammable material since this had never been a problem before. Fireplaces and older stoves produced roaring fires that either burned the creosote out or kept stacks temps above 250 degrees so that the gases escaped without condensing.

why does my blazeking wood burning stove get creas - creosote1.jpg

Creosote such as this can usually be brushed out
The ensuing chimney fires and the mess and expense of having to clean out the chimneys periodically caused many folks to sell their stoves and go back to gas or oil. Many of these stoves are still around, however, and the people who own them have learned a thing or two about wood burning. One thing many of these people do is to start each day with a roaring fire. This not only gives rapid heating to a house cooled off during the night and gets your coffee pot perking, it also burns out creosote that may have formed during the night. The result is a series of mini chimney fires that, if done every day and carefully controlled, are small enough to present no hazard. This technique, of course, is only effective for creosote in the stovepipe near the stove. It does nothing to address any problems near the top of the chimney. Also, if the chimney already has an excessive buildup of creosote, the above could spark a MAJOR chimney fire. As with any user-operated appliance, there is no substitute for familiarity with your specific installation, stove and chimney.

To fire a stove properly, a stack thermometer is essential. The most common type is a magnetic clamp-on that is attached to the stove pipe above the stove. They are slower to react and not as accurate as probe types but they will tell you all you need to know to fire the stove. Just don't pay any attention to the zones most of them have indicated on them. For example, mine labels temps above 380 as Overheated. If I followed that advice, I would be loaded with creosote.


Glazed Creosote is difficult to clean and extremely flammable once ignited

Creosote build up is pretty sneaky. You may not notice it at first but it tends to feed on itself. As it builds up, it restricts the flow in the chimney and/or stove pipes. This slows the smoke on its way out, allowing more time for it to cool and for the creosote to condense and deposit itself thus further restricting the flow. If youdont burn it out every morning, it quickly builds to a point where it is dangerous to do so. The only course left to you then is to take the pipes down and clean them and the chimney. Hopefully, when your stove was installed it was installed with short pipes and few bends. Taking creosote filled pipes down makes a real mess.

As for the chimney, you can buy chimney brushes with extending , flexible handles that allow you to brush the chimney from a clean out on the bottom. You can do a reasonable job that way but, its no substitute for a thorough cleaning and inspection which should be done annually.

Whether you climb up on the roof and do it yourself or hire a professional chimney sweep, is up to you. Either way, its best to do it in the spring. Creosote is corrosive and it pays to remove it as soon aspracticle . The moist summer weather can cause creosote smells in the house so, best to get it done as soon as the heating season is over. If you hire a sweep, he or she is apt to be more readily available in the spring than in the fall and might even offer a discount for off season employment.

Failure to follow these maintenance procedures could well result in a massive chimney fire. This is a truly frightening possibility. People who have experienced them say they are accompanied by a great roar and sparks and flames shooting out of the chimney. The best way I know of to fight them is to completely close off all air to the stove. For this to work you have to maintain your door gaskets, dampers etc. Once you have done that, call 911 and get out of the house!

There are only two ways to prevent creosote formation in chimneys. You can either keep the chimney above 250 degree F all the way out the top or, you can burn up the gases that form the creosote in the stove before they reach the chimney. Modern stoves do the latter and capture the heat produced by essentially burning the smoke.. This is true of stoves with catalytic converters and non-cat stoves that burn gases by recirculating them. Either way, less smoke means less creosote. Burn the smoke and you burn the gases. No gases, no creosote. As simple as that.

The wood you burn has a lot to do with creosote. All firewood contains water in some degree. How much it contains is important. Wood dried outside, stacked where the wind will blow through it will end up in my part of the world with about 20-25% moisture content.That's about the best I can hope for.

All the water contained in the wood is turned to saturated steam as the wood burns. It enters the stack as steam and water droplets at a temp. of around 212 degree F. This is considerably cooler than the condensation point of the creosote gasses, 250 degrees. Thus, the presence of the steam cools the chimney, the gases condense and creosote is formed. This is true whether you burn hard or soft wood. The moisture content is all that matters. You can't eliminate it but, burning seasoned wood will keep it to a minimum.

Finally, the size and placement of the chimney, the chimney liner, the size of the flue, the length of the stove pipe and the size of the stove all factor into the creosote equation. These are matters best discussed with your stove dealer and building inspector if you plan on including wood heat in your new home or adding it to an older dwelling.

In summary, newer stoves and properly lined and insulated chimneys have done a lot to reduce the chances of excess creosote buildup, but there is no substitute for experience and education concerning this potentially dangerous substance.

Dave Johnson

(article copied from: http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/articles/creosote_from_wood_burning_causes_and_solutions)

steve addams

Level 2:

An expert who has achieved level 2 by getting 100 points

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

New Friend:

An expert that has 1 follower.

Cheetah:

An expert who has answered 20 or more questions within one hour.

  • Expert 126 Answers
  • Posted on Nov 25, 2014
steve addams
Expert
Level 2:

An expert who has achieved level 2 by getting 100 points

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

New Friend:

An expert that has 1 follower.

Cheetah:

An expert who has answered 20 or more questions within one hour.

Joined: Oct 20, 2012
Answers
126
Questions
0
Helped
37863
Points
337

This creasote is tar from the wood you burn,dont use freash wood must be always very dry wood keep som sand in the fire box,so you can empty it out clean

Add Your Answer

×

Uploading: 0%

my-video-file.mp4

Complete. Click "Add" to insert your video. Add

×

Loading...
Loading...

Related Questions:

0helpful
1answer

I have a Newmac wb100 series wood furnace and it it not reaching the set temperature on the thermostat. Wondering what I can do. Also what do the therminal block actually do on the furnace.

Once combustion has stabilized any increase in fire box temperature requires an increase in combustion air.

from the manual...
"When burning with wood, the minimum setting for the manual draft slide should be in the centre. (This is the slide knob beside the combustion fan above the firedoor). The closed position is for when burning with oil for a prolonged period (to obtain maximum efficiency) and the open setting is for initially starting a wood fire."

If you're already at maximum draft, you could try burning higher quality combustible material (dryer or higher density wood), increase draft pressure (taller chimney), or larger fire box (bigger stove).
tip

Alternative Heating Pellet Stoves and Pellet Inserts

Pellet stoves usually use wood pellets as their primary heat source. A pellet stove is defined as a stove that burns either compressed wood or biomass pellets to make heat to warm a home or other space.

Pellet stoves come as either free-standing units or fireplace pellet inserts which can be vented into an existing chimney. As an insert, you are able to replace your wood burning stove with this efficient and cost effect stove. Inserts also give the homeowner more of the look of a fireplace than that of a pellet stove. Pellet inserts can also be a great alternative for people who have busy lifestyles and are looking to get the beauty of a fire but prefer a cleaner burning renewable heat source.

Pellet stoves are freestanding structures that can give you the feeling that an old pot bellied stove did, tucked into a corner of a living room, den, or kitchen. Either the pellet inserts or freestanding stoves are a great alternative heating solution for keeping a house warm during the winter.

Many stove manufacturers recommend the using a corn and pellet mixture, but some are UL listed for many fuels other than pellets. These can include wheat, corn, sunflower seeds, and cherry pits.

Pellet stoves are a bit more efficient, burn cleaner, and are easier to use than conventional wood burning stoves. Pellet stoves often look very similar to wood stoves or fireplace inserts, however the similarities end there.

If you are considering burning alternative fuels then you will want to look into a pellet stove as a great way to heat your home. Pellet stoves and pellet insets have many great advantages over regular wood stoves that make them a practical heat for busy lifestyles.
on Dec 07, 2009 • Heating & Cooling
0helpful
2answers

The fireplace no longer produces a flame, i do not have the manual to trouble shoot and fix it

Gas Fireplace Manual - Gas Fireplace Instructions: Mendota ...

mendotahearth.com/gas-fireplace-stove-owners-manual.php
Mendota gas fireplace manuals and gas fireplace instructions for Mendota ...Mendota Gas Fireplace Insert FullView Model FV33i PF2 - Installation Manual

[PDF]FIREPLACE HEATER - Crane

crane-usa.com/assets/.../Fireplace_Heater_2013.pdf

by C Care - ‎Cited by 2 - ‎Related articles
your fireplace heater, please contact Crane. Customer ... This instruction manualapplies to the following models of the Fireplace Heaters product line: Color.
0helpful
1answer

I need to build a hearth for my Waterford 106 Wood Burning stove. How big should it be? Especially, what did Waterford recommend when it built this stove?

Anyone heard of a Waterford 103? ' Hearth.com Forums Home

www.hearth.com/talk/threads/anyone-heard-of-a-waterford-103.9653/
Nov 28, 2007 - Hello, I'm new here and I have a stove in my house that arrived with no... Does anyone know anything about this stove? Coal? Wood? Age? Make? ... The 103 was a wood-burning "Fireplace Stove" from the mid-80's. Installing an insert without using 6" flue liner tube because of ...
Sep 23, 2014
Looks like it's officially 24/7 burning time...
Dec 10, 2009
More results from www.hearth.com

Wood Stove Hearth on Pinterest ' Corner Wood Stove ...

https://www.pinterest.com/explore/wood-stove-hearth/
Pinterestfrom My Paradissi ... decorating around a wood stove ' Cosy wood burning stove fireplace: how to decorate around it. love the ... 893 106 ... wood burning stove hearth ideas ' old wood stove on brick hearth by Brian Powell - Stocksy United . .... Corner Wood Stove Surrounds ' How to Build a Hearth for a Wood Burning Stove.Missing: waterford
Oct 21, 2015 • Home
1helpful
2answers

Can't keep the wood burning in stove. How does the buck stove take in air?

To burn properly, it needs proper combustion air and proper draft. Draft is effected by the size and height of the flue the appliance is connected to and by how much combustion air is available. The appliance flue connection should not be reduced to fit a smaller chimney size. That is, an 8" flue should not have an 8 x 6 reducer to vent it into a 6" chimney.

The wood you are burning could contribute to a poorly burning fire. To burn properly, the wood needs to have been "seasoned" for a minimum of 1 year or close to it. Two years is even better. "Green"
or freshly cut wood contains an unbelieveable amount of moisture in it and a tremendous amount of the heat is wasted just "preheating" the wood to the temperature that causes it to release gasses for ignition.

I don't know the style or model of your Buck, but all wood burning appliances should have combustion air dampers of either a sliding design, rotating round design or hinged design with handle at the bottom front of the firebox. I'm sure there are some fancy new designs that have air piped in from outside the structure.

Every wood fired stove, fireplace or furnace has its own idiosyncrasies and its up to the user to determine what's required for making it operate as designed.
0helpful
3answers

How is air supply regulated in wood burning stoves?

To regulate air flow, there are damper devices built into the stove, flue and stove pipes. Keeping the air flowing correctly through a wood-burning stove is essential for safe and efficient operation of the stove. Fresh air needs to enter the wood compartment to provide oxygen fuel for the fire; as the fire burns, the smoke must be allowed to rise through the stove pipes, and exit through the chimney.
May 07, 2013 • Home
0helpful
1answer

Wood burning heater when putting wood into stove lots of smoke comes into the house when door is opened.

It ain't drafting right or you have the damper closed. Look for obstructions in the smoke stack.
Wood burning tips
  • Burn only wood. No garbage, plastics, rubber, paint or oil, briquettes, paper, etc. Burning these items releases harmful chemicals into the air.
  • Burn Wise Program from EPA: Emphasizes the importance of burning the right wood.
  • Build small, hot fires instead of large, smoldering ones.
  • Don't "bed the fire down" for the night. Holding a fire overnight is a fire hazard and can create serious indoor and outdoor air pollution problems.
  • Open your damper if the smoke is dark. Dark smoke indicates more pollution is being produced and fuel is being wasted.
  • Keep your stove clean and well-maintained. Follow manufacturer guidelines; replace catalytic stove filters every 1-4 years. Have your chimney checked and cleaned at least once a year.
Use seasoned wood The best fuel for woodstoves is dry, "seasoned" wood. Seasoned wood has a moisture content of about 20% or less. It tends to be dark in color, cracked on the ends, light in weight and has bark that is easily broken or peeled. Here are some tips for preparing seasoned wood:
  • Split the wood to help it dry. Wood will dry out more quickly and burn best if the wood is cut to about 3 1/2 inches to 6 inches in diameter.
  • Cover the split firewood to protect it from the weather and stack it loosely in alternating layers, at least 6 inches off the ground.
  • Time must be given to allow the wood to reach 20% or less moisture required for seasoned wood. This process takes approximately 6-12 months. Think ahead and buy next winter's wood well in advance.
It is recommended an annual chimney cleaning to remove creosote build up and to identify potential problems. Things to consider:
  • The Chimney cap may be plugged by debris.
  • Catalytic combustor and baffles are exposed to very high heat and deteriorate as used. Replace every 1-4 years depending on use.
  • Stovepipe angles and bolts are subject to corrosion.
  • Gaskets on airtight stove doors need replacement every few years. Gaskets and seals are used by the appliance designer to control the location and flow of air into the appliance.
  • Check seams on stoves sealed with furnace cement. Seams may leak and cause you to loose valuable heat and reduce the efficiency of the unit.
  • Replace broken or missing firebricks.
  • Keep the floor of your stove clean of debris and ash.
-from the web

If you need further help, reach me via phone at https://www.6ya.com/expert/dan_73bbd84fe1d95b61

1helpful
1answer

How can I re-enamel an old wood burning stove?

For my outdoor burner i use Krylon high temp flat black which works great for me, Sherwin-Williams has a large variety of high temp paint for your application.
Oct 10, 2009 • Ovens
0helpful
1answer

I have a wood burning stove fitted in our modern home. The stove has a vertical flue pipe fitted from the top and up through a purpouse built chimney liner in the ceiling. the lower parts of the system...

(1) The lower "enamel" pipe is possibly Ceramic coated pipe, used for high temperature flue applications.
(2) The "stickey black tar" is creasote. Whoever installed the flue pipe did it wrong. It needs to be reversed so that the "Crimped" end of the pipe is pointing down. That way the creasote will drain back into the stove and get burned up.

If you need further help, I’m available over the phone at https://www.6ya.com/expert/dan_77d17b8918f54455

Not finding what you are looking for?

357 views

Ask a Question

Usually answered in minutes!

Top Home Experts

john h

Level 3 Expert

29494 Answers

Brad Brown

Level 3 Expert

19187 Answers

ADMIN Andrew
ADMIN Andrew

Level 3 Expert

66820 Answers

Are you a Home Expert? Answer questions, earn points and help others

Answer questions

Manuals & User Guides

Loading...