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Superheat subcooling Where can we find the superheat for a Delfield SSDTR1-SH. It is not in the service manual.

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The model says that this is a cooler/freezer combination unit. super heat has to be measured on each section separately. As a general rule: Freezers run around 6-8 degrees and coolers are 8-10. I have seen freezers go as low as 4 degrees right before they hit set point temp and shut off.

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http://www.delfield.com/docs/uploaded/del/manuals/archive/dm6000.pdf
Start with this site as it has your manual. Check it out and if it does not get you going, get back to me.
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I assume r-22 refrigerant by the pressure... you have a saturate temperature of approximately 41 degree and 71 degrees at the service port this equates to a 30 degree superheat. a condenser saturation temperature of 105 degrees and since the liquid line temp at the service valve is not given only the enterin indoor coil on the liquid line a 96 degree temperature this would equate to a subcooling temperatureof about nine degrees. You have too high of a superheat reading. verify that the bulb for the txv is correctly positioned and insulated. if it is then you need to remove the bulb from the suction line, hold it in your hand to warm it up and see if the superheat changes. you could also have issues with your ductwork. If the supply temperture is around 50-55 degrees then the unit is doing all it can.. Check the txv and the ductwork as the subcooling indicates that the condenser side is doing it's job, but the superheat readings indicate that you are starving the evaporator..
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Subcooling - The difference between the temperature of the Small copper line (Liquid Line) and the high-side (red) gauge temp on your manifold

Superheat - The difference between the temp. of the Suction line (Big copper) and the low side gauge (blue) temp
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