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Daisy air rifle, model 880: Very hard to pump, lever about to break. Shoots really weak even after many pumps.

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It needs lubricating. Take it apart, clean it, then put machine oil on the moving parts and seals. If seals are damaged they need replacing. And, please only use it for target shooting.

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