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Tractor will not start B7200

I turn the key and push in the clutch and nothing happens. The fuel guage works but the glow plugs are not heating when I turn key backward. I tried a brand new ignition switch but got the same result.

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Check that the glo plugs are in fact working as the element burns out in operation

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 16, 2008

SOURCE: Engine starts, but stalls when clutch is released.

The is a safety switch located underneath the mower, in the dashboard area. This switch will not pass voltage to the ignition system unless the pedal is depressed, or the deck is not all the way up. However, your culprit is most likely the pto (power take off) switch on the dash that engages the blades. It will not allow the mower to start, if pulled, and if faulty will shut off ignition power when you release the pedal. First. You'll need a volunteer to sit on the mower and operate the controls.  Now put the deck down and with the pedal depressed start the engine. Nothing should happen, if it does replace the deck switch Sears part number #176138 mentioned above. Now raise the deck and release the pedal. Again, nothing should happen. Same solution if it does. If nothing happens on both tests the switch is ok. NOW. Behind the dash, find the pto switch, and squeeze the sides, depressing two clips that hold it in the dash. You should now be able to slide it though the dash, wiring attached. Unplug the switch. With pedal depressed, deck up, someone sitting on the seat, start the mower. Now release the pedal (making sure to block the wheels and have the transmission handle is in the neutral position. If the engine continues to run, you found the problem. Replace the PTO switch. Sears part number # 174651. Also, check the plug to the pto, ignition and deck switches for corrosion as this is a common problem, though not likely to cause yours, it could. Good luck, and please let us know the outcome, good or bad. Thanks so much.

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donald boissonneault

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  • Posted on Mar 19, 2009

SOURCE: Ignition switch

A kubota dealer should be able to print one for you or go on line with model # etc and you should be able to bring one up yourself. I hope this helps. donnyb60

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 21, 2009

SOURCE: MTD riding lawn mower will not start. Know for

Hello:

>>From your Description it Sounds like the Clutch/Brake Switch Bracket has Bent and the Safety Switch is Not being Moved enough to Activate this Switch.
>>The Following is an Instruction File for the Safety Switch System. Any Input is Appreciated.
>>The Color Code of the Wires May be Different than those I Use as a Reference in the Instruction File.
>>**PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR CHECKING THE SAFETY SWITCHES IS JUST THAT!!! FOR CHECKING ONLY.
>>I NEVER Suggest a Mower be Operated with a Safety Device or Switch Disconnected or Bypassed.
>>**Now. On Some Model Mowers you can Simply Unplug the Safety Switch from the Harness. On Other Models you have to Place a Jumper Wire Between the Harness Terminals (on the 4 Post Switch (Clutch/Brake) Jumper from Same Color Wire (Example: White to White) First and then Check for Fire, Now Include the Black to Black Wires if No Fire. Check the Clutch/Brake and the Blade/PTO Safety Switches First. Then Check the Oil Guard Switch (if Applicable). Check the Seat Safety Last. Usually the Seat Safety is Not in the System for Starting the Engine. Just to Ensure Someone is in the Seat when Engaging the Transaxle and/or Blades. Use a Paper Clip or a Short Wire to Make a Jumper.**
>>Use a Multimeter and Check the Continuity of the Switch. The Meter should Show when the Contacts are Closed and Open. The Meter will Swing All the Way Over when the Switch Contacts are Closed and Swing Back to the Rest Point when the Switch Contacts are Open.
>>Send me the Model Numbers Off the Mower, Please. With these I can Locate the Proper Manual and Better Assist you. The Model Numbers are Usually Located Under the Seat on a Sticker or Tag on the Body.
>>Thanks.

Respectfully

John

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 29, 2009

SOURCE: LT2000 had been working fine, but trying to start

Make sure there is no corrosion on the battery terminal connections and check the fuse and safety switches clutch, brake,seat.
Eric

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 29, 2009

SOURCE: Murray Lawn Tractor Model 42576x92A will not start...no spark?

http://www.partsandservice.com/bin/ipl.cgi

I found a wiring diagram that I hope helps you out.

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Will bump start but not off key

If the car turns over well..so you can crank the engine using the key and it turns over fast, but it won't start, could be down to low fuel pressure, possibly fuel pump. Could be the coil ( which I doubt as the car starts when bumped) or, like you say, the plugs. The fact that the engine fires up when pushed, and the lack of info regarding how well the engine turns over using the battery, seems to me that it could be either a bad earth ground from the battery, but more likely a bad battery that's lost it amps and losing its charge quickly when the engine is off. Engines can turn over with a bad battery but the amps are bad and it dies quick. One thing you could try would be to see if you can get someone to jump start the engine using cables. If the engine starts its most likely the battery. You may still encounter a problem using cables because there still might not be enough amps getting through, so the best option would be to try a different battery first. Your car is starting when bumped which makes me think the plugs are ok, as when power reaches the plugs, they heat up and create combustion. If the fuel pressure is low, this could cause your problem, as the bump will increase the pressure and supply allowing it to start. I'm not sure if your car is electronic pump or mechanical. If it's electrical this could be unlikely the cause unless the power drain when trying to crank the engine from the battery is causing poor fuel supply from the electric pump. There is another thing..do you allow enough time for the glow plugs to heat up? some cars as they age prefer some time with the key on to the point the dash lights are on, and wait 30 seconds and then turn over the engine, this power supply can allow the plugs to heat up prior to being turned over. One other thing could be the pre- heaters. I'm not sure the exact names, but modern engines have a system that pre-heats the plugs, like pre-coils or something. This could be bad.

Try this first:
turn key to the point the ignition is on fully with lights on but don't turn over the engine. Leave it 30 seconds and then turn over the engine. See if this works. This will help heat the plugs and prime the fuel pump.

If this does not work, then try to get someone to jump start your car using cables. Again follow the previous tip. If this works it's likely your battery.

If this does not work, try a different battery. hopefully someone can loan you one. If this works, it's your old battery. some batteries are maintenance free, so you shouldn't top up with distilled water, but some are not and lose water. If it's low, top it up with distilled water. Do not use tap water. Be careful handling the battery with the caps off. Do not over fill.

If this does not work, try new glow plugs.

If this does not work, it could be the fuel pump causing low pressure.

Lastly, when you key the engine to turn it ove, does it just click? If you just hear a click from the starter motor, then either the battery is bad, a bad earth ground requiring a clean of the terminals and reconnecting them, or new starter motor. If you just hear a click and the battery is good, see if you can get someone to whack the starter motor body with a hammer and it may start. Be very careful not to have the car is gear, to no get your hand caught in moving parts, etc. This is at your own risk, please google how to do this and then decide if you wish to try.

There can only be so many problems. Power or fuel. It starts when pushed, so it gets fuel from the pump when pushed. The plugs get power when pushed. The key is does it turn over from battery, and is it getting enough amps. Good luck
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No power ig when turn key

old posts zero answers. what year, no year stated.?
great post, Key does nothing" clear
and is called NO CRANK, if it cant crank it cant start (m/t push starting might)
any time its a no crank,
check ALL FUSES.
1: if A/t wiggle gear shift (P then try Neutral) N might work.
2: if M/T , wiggle clutch , near floor pressed.

if CEL lamp is dead, key on, the fuses are blown.
the CEL must glow key on, or Fuses blown.
easy huh?
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Kubota b7200

check for safety switches under the seat and on the brake system
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I have a 4500 John Deer tractor that typically won't start in cold temperatures (i.e. 39 or below) otherwise it starts promptly. I've pushed the key in to heat the glow plug a minute or more.

The 4500 John Deere tractor sounds like the glow plugs are not working. Checked voltage at the glow plugs to make sure that there is 12 DC volts.(Might have to remove main wire from the glow plugs to check!) If no voltage at glow plugs there maybe a bad fuse,relay or wire connection in the glow plug circuit. If there is 12 DC volts at the glow plugs, it is possible that the glow plugs need to be replaced.
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Lost glow plug function

Had same thing happen on my New Holland 1630. Took the buss bar off the glow plugs and pulled them out and tested with test leads on the battery. They glowed. Put a volt/ohm meter on the buss bar and turned the key to glow position, no 12 volts present. Checked for blown fuse, nothing blown. Looked at relays. There was a glow plug lamp timer next to the start relay. Wiggled wires going to timer while asking for glow with key. Saw the glow lamp flicker. Took timer out and opened it up. Found a broken solder joint on circuit board resulting in a loose capacitor. Soldered the crack and put back on tractor. That was it! Glow plugs work now.
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International 454 farm tractor-when i start to put a load on the motor it starts to bog down then back fires thru the carb. ill turn the key off but with keep running till i let the clutch out to kill the...

Sounds like you're on the right track if you're sure there's not a fuel problem.

It may simply be in the ignition switch itself being it doesn't shut off and you have to stall the tractor using the clutch.

You could simply try a test light and see if the ignition coil is getting power with the key off and engine not running. If there is still power on either one of the terminals with the key off then you more than likely burnt the ignition points.

This would also tell you the ignition switch is bad.

Hope this helps.
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Difficult to start -- bad kill switch?

You have 3 safety switches located on the tractor, any one of which can cause the tractor to not crank over.
I assume the deck lever is not engaged, you are sitting in the seat and you push the clutch down when trying to start?
Start by lifting the seat and disconnecting the seat switch, push the clutch in and try to start.
Start there and we'll go from there.
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