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james baker Posted on Dec 22, 2012
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Put on a new overload/relay with start capacitor, it failed in 6 hours

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James, dependant on the model, it could be a failed condenser fan motor or blocked condenser. this allows the unit to run but kills performance and loads the overload, which may trip after a while. The fan should run any time the compressor does. Typically, electrical o/l , relay faults will not allow the compressor to start or run for 6 hrs. To test the compressor relay theory, use a multimeter and check the resistance in pairs across all 3 compressor terminal pins to get 3 resistance readings. If in good order, one will be low, one slightly higher and the third will equal the combined resistance of the first two.( hope that made sense) next test each terminal to the compressor body or earth terminal. Any reading here means a short to earth. If your insurance policy covers fusion, call a service guy. Hope I was of assistance.

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Compressor getting overheated, or the replaced part is of very low quality,go for branded parts.

Replacement parts can be purchased at any of the following web sites:

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partsselect.com

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Before going to buy any parts directly.
Go through this troubleshooting help links.

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This is list of refrigerator problems, which is normally faced in refrigerator.
You can go through the details, by clicking the link below:---

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Refrigerator is not cooling properly?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2011/06/refrigerator-is-not-cooling-properly.html
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Both refrigerator and freezer not cooling properly in refrigerator?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2011/06/both-refrigerator-and-freezer-not.html
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The ice maker not working: ---
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2011/06/ice-maker-stopped-working.html

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Compressor not running on refrigerator?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2011/10/compressor-not-running-on-refrigerator.html
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Water dispenser not working on refrigerator?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2011/10/water-dispenser-not-working-on_19.html

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Ice maker stopped making ice?

http://alltypesofpartsreplacing.blogspot.com/2011/10/ice-maker-stopped-making-ice.html

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Water Overflows in Ice maker and freezes inside?

http://alltypesofpartsreplacing.blogspot.com/2011/10/water-overflows-in-ice-maker-and.html

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How to replace Ice maker assembly?

http://alltypesofpartsreplacing.blogspot.com/2011/10/how-to-replace-ice-maker-assembly.html

These will help.

Thanks,.

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douglas smith

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SOURCE: Refrigerator not cooling.

compressor has failed. not a diy job

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carl carpenter

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  • Posted on Jan 23, 2009

SOURCE: I NED TO CONECT 3-1 RELAY OVERLOAD CAPACITOR IN MI FRIDGE

first take all the relays and capacitor off of compressor , then attach black wire with terminal on "C" terminal post usually top terminal, white wire with terminal goes on "S" terminal post on compressor, red wire with terminal goes on "R" terminal post on compressor. then take the two black wires one connects to white neutral wire and the other connects to the black power wire if tis fridge has a condensor fan then you will also need to connect it two the two black wires also thanks hope this helps

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 17, 2009

SOURCE: bad overload relay

Do not go with the 3 in 1 start kit ! This is only a temporary " fix " . The part number you need , is 61006186 . This is the direct replacement , for the overload / relay , on your refrig .

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 06, 2010

SOURCE: I just replaced the start relay (start device) on

Leave the capacitor on and don't worry about the cover. The capacitor really helps the compressor to not use as much electricity, thus saving energy.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 10, 2010

SOURCE: kenmore refrigatorstart/relay/overload switch has burned spot on

HI. i would recommend to check the relay first, then the compressor last to confirm total failure. If both devices test out ok, this will lead to a failed main power control board.

THE RELAY

The compressor relay starts the compressor. A fault relay can result in the compressor failing to cycle on. The relay is accessed from the lower rear of the refrigerator. The compressor relay can be accessed by removing the terminal cover box. The cover is held on by tension or with a retaining clip. On some units. the relay may not be covered at all.(each model may vary). Beneath the terminal cover(if equipped), you will find the compressor relay, and the overload protector as well. The electrical terminals of the compressor motor are located here also. Remove the compressor relay by pulling it straight off from the compressor, gently. Pull the wire off of the side terminal of the relay. It is connected with a slip on connector. Firmly pull the connector, do not pull on the wire. You may need to use a pair of needle-nose pliers. Inspect the connector and terminal for corrosion. If either is corroded they should be cleaned or replaced. There are two types of relays you may encounter, wire coil and solid state. If the relay has an exposed wound wire coil it can be tested for continuity. Otherwise, the relay is of solid state design and requires specialized equipment for testing. Test the relay with a ohm(multimeter), for continuity. Set the meter to the ohms setting X1. With the relay upside down, place the probes into the terminals labeled "S" and "M"(the labeling may vary on each model). The meter should display a reading of zero ohms, indicating continuity (or if using a continuity tester, it should light up). With the probes still in place, turn the relay over. You should hear the click of the magnetic switch engaging. The meter should now display an ohm reading of infinity (or the tester should not light up). Turn the relay upside down again, place the probe on the "S" terminal and place it on the side terminal labeled "L". The meter should now display a reading of zero ohms (continuity). Turn the relay over and the reading should change to infinity. With the relay upside down place one probe on the "L" terminal and the other probe on terminal labeled "M". The meter should display a reading of zero ohms. Turn the relay over and the reading will stay the same, zero ohms. Now, if the relay fails these described tests, it should be replaced asap.

COMPRESSOR TEST PROCEDURE

The compressor is accessed from the lower rear of the refrigerator. Generally the same proximity of the relay. The compressor motor can be accessed by removing the terminal cover box. The cover is held on by tension or with a retaining clip. The main testing points will be the actual terminal post that hold the relay, gently pull the relay of the terminal box on the side of the compressor, and use the relay holding probes for testing. Once the relay is removed, Place one probe on any terminal and then touch the other probe to each of the other two terminals. The multimeter should display a reading of zero ohms. Be sure to set your meter to 1X before beginning. Now move the first probe to a different terminal and test the other two terminals with the other probe. Finally, move the first probe to the last terminal and test each of the other terminals with the other probe. Every test should have continuity with the multimeter displaying zero ohms. If the compressor motor does not pass all of these tests, the compressor will require professional service. Now test the compressor for ground. With the multimeter still set to X1, touch one probe to bare metal on the compressor housing (it may be necessary to scratch away a little paint to expose the metal). Touch the other probe to each of the three terminals in turn. None of the terminals should have continuity; the multimeter should display a reading of infinity. If any of the grounding tests show continuity, the compressor will require professional service.

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Ohm the compressor terminals to ground and across to each other.
1. If any read anything to ground the compressor is bad. If not go on to the next step.
2.Your readings between the compressor terminals should all be different and you should have 1 low 1 medium and 1 high resistance reading.
Add the low and mid reading together and the sum should be close to the highest reading. If it reads say 20% more or less then retest it a couple of times to confirm your not slipping on the terminals. If you get only 2 readings don’t panic wait 24 hours for the motor to cool off for sure and recheck it. If still no reading then your compressor motor is open. A new compressor or replacement of the appliance is required. If you now get the 3 readings described make a diagram you feel comfortable with as to where the wires go to each component before removing anything, then continue:
3 Assuming the above checks out: Get a new *Start relay *start capacitor if so equipped relay *external overload and *run capacitor if it has one. In other words everything that is external and attached to the wires or terminals on the compressor or wiring per your diagram and replace them on to the compressor. Then if it starts problem solved if it still does same thing the compressor is bad (broken mechanically inside the compressor) and you have to decide to replace compressor or replace the refrigerating compressor be it AC or Refrigeration.

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If you follow most of these steps above you will arrive at a correct diagnosis well over 90% of the time ( allowing for what is unusual or for misunderstandings)

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