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Pto wont work

Wont start unless u jump starter solnoid . then blades wont engage when commanded by switch seat safety switch already bypassed.

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Try and bypass the safety switch on the clutch/brake pedal

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 30, 2009

SOURCE: cub cadet 2135 wont start

check for a fuse behind the ignition
it might be blown
then i would check the starter solenoid
if you put a screwdriver accross the bolts that hold the wire from the starter and ignition switch and it tries to start there's ur problem.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 18, 2011

SOURCE: PTO problem on a model

Hi,
I would be looking at the ignition switch....but before replacing it I would be looking for a friend with an electrical meter and checking the wiring for power coming out of the switch to the cluthch, this way you can narrow it down positively before buying parts.

heatman101

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 06, 2011

SOURCE: My PTO will not engage

Check the operator presence switch located under the drivers seat. If that isn't mounted properly it will not activate like it should and will cause the mower to die when you try to engage the PTO or release the brake with it in gear.

raj somaiya

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  • Posted on Aug 29, 2011

SOURCE: Cadet LT 1045; PTO not

The electric PTO clutch on a Cub Cadet L1045 allows the mower blades to engage. The electric clutch is located directly under the engine and is bolted onto the crankshaft. When the PTO switch is placed in the on position, an electrical current is sent to the PTO clutch; engaging a brake which then allows the blades to turn. When the PTO switch is in the on position and the blades will not turn, the electric PTO clutch may need replacing. Check the 2 wire conection under the frame near the pto clutch, motor off of course. Make them tight.
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First start by turning ign on,then switch on the pto switch to on. you should hear a click in the clutch. If not use a twelve volt test light,hook aligator end to a good ground and the needle end,touch to the pto switch harness to see if you have power to the pto switch.If you don"t, you have to go checkfurther to your power source,(battery) if you do have power there check to see if you have power at the plugin at the end of your wire harness, just at the beginning of where your cluch connects up. You can test you clutch by conneting a test wire from positive on your battery to one of the terminals on your clutch and the other terminal to ground . It will engage if it is good .--------- But if not then by pass the pto and see if the clutch gets engaged.If it gets then replace the pto switch, but if its not engaging by bypassing the PTO switch then problem is with clutch, it has to be replaced. ------------ This will help.Thanks.Helpmech.

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Engine starts fine,, when manual pto engaged engine cuts out and blades dont engage

Try checking your seat and clutch safety switches by theme TEMPERARLY bypassing them with a jumper wire start with the seat...good luck..
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My cub cadet zero turn clicks when trying to start.

When I turn the key nothing happens.
There are several elements that go into cranking (turning over) the engine.
  1. Battery
  2. Fuse
  3. Key Switch (and wiring)
  4. Starter Solenoid and wires
  5. Starter motor
Let's start with the battery. The quickest way to make your initial check of the entire starting system and particularly the battery is to get a jump. Yep, get some jumper cables and jump the mower off your car. Turn the key and try to start it in the normal fashion. If it starts cool! It is likely a bad battery.
  • Charge the battery for a few hours, on a charger.
  • Then perform a voltage measurement of the battery.
  • Switch a volt meter to DC Volts and clip it to the battery. It should read between 12-13 volts. If not the battery is suspect.
Now let's check the starting system while bypassing all the safety switches and wiring. How? You can perform this test simply by jumping the starter solenoid. Hold a wrench or fat screwdriver across the two large posts of the starter solenoid. This bypasses the key switch and all safety devices and directly drives the starter. Your starter will crank if the battery and starter are good, the wires and connections are good, and the engine is not locked up. Don't crank it for more that a couple seconds. You just want to verify the battery and the starter are both in good shape. (The engine will crank but not start during this test if the key is off, or if the safety switches or wiring are damaged, or if the safety switches are in the no start/run positions.)

If the starter cranks try one more test. Run a small jumper wire from the positive post of the battery to the little terminal on the solenoid. You may have to take the small wire off the terminal, on the starter solenoid, in order to do this. When you apply this current from the battery to the terminal it should make the solenoid activate and the starter crank. This test bypasses the key switch and shows you the starter system is working. You could do this test first; if it works you do not need to do the basic jump test.

If these tests cause the engine to crank, but it will not crank with the key, then you know you have a problem somewhere in your starter wiring, safety switch system, fuse, or in your Key Switch. Of course you did check the battery terminals for good connection, right?

Most modern riding mowers have the following safety switches:
  • Seat switch
  • PTO switch
  • Reverse switch (RIS) and Reverse Relay (RIO)
  • Brake/Clutch switch
If you need detailed instruction for testing your wiring and safety system, I will need your complete machine info.
  • Make
  • Model
  • Year
  • Engine Model
  • Transmission Model
  • Deck Size.

On a John Deere (100 series) the starting current flows through the following items in this order:
  1. Battery to Fuse then to the Key Switch.
  2. With key switch in the start position, the current flows from the Key Switch to PTO.
  3. With PTO off, current flows from the PTO to Brake/Clutch
  4. With Brake/Clutch Pedal all the way down, the current flows to the starter solenoid.
  5. If the Starter Solenoid is in good shape, the solenoid connects the battery to the Starter and the engine cranks. Cranking does not mean running; it just means the engine turns over. Running is dependent on many other systems.
That list of components are all part of the cranking/starting system. They can prevent the Starter Motor from cranking when you turn the Key Switch. You can trace the voltage with a multi meter.Connect the black lead to ground and look for 12 volts on each successive step.If the voltage disappears at one particular step, there is your suspect.

Electrical elements that are NOT part of the starting system:
The RIO is the Reverse Implement Option. It is a switch that latches and stays latched under certain conditions. It is activated by the RIS. The RIS is the Reverse Implement Switch. It activates the RIO. These two separate components work to allow the blades to cut while you are backing up (without killing the engine). They have nothing to do with the starting system.

The Seat and the RIO (the reverse latch not the button) switches are tied into the engine kill system.They provide a ground path for grounding the Coil. This same system controls the fuel shut off valve beneath the carburetor. The Seat and RIO can keep the engine from running but they will not prevent the Starter Motor from cranking. Therefore, if you turn the key and nothing happens, the problem has nothing to do with the Seat and Reverse switches.

Note: With the Key in the RUN position, power flows from the Key Switch to the Hour Meter, then to the RIO latch relay (not the RIS button), then to the fuel shut off solenoid. If you do not hear the Fuel Shut off Solenoid clicking on and off when you turn the Key Switch from off to run, there may be a problem in this circuit; including a possible problem in the Hour Meter. Of course none of this affects the cranking circuit. Your engine will still crank, it just won't run.
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The safety switch beneath the seat is only one part of the several interconnecting safety features of the modern riding mower. If the system works properly, you must be seated for the mower deck to operate. The tractor will continue running with the Power Take Off disengaged if the parking brake is set before the operator leaves the seat.The seat switch consists of two electrical contacts normally separated by an air gap. A spring creates an open space between the two contacts. Mounted between two plates, the switch's spring compresses under the weight of the person sitting in the operator seat and completes an electrical circuit. With the switch closed the tractor's ignition system can be switched on with the ignition key. If the operator stands, the spring forces the gap open and interrupts the electrical ignition circuit. The safety circuit allows the riding mower motor to continue running if the PTO is not engaged. When the parking brake is set a second switch in electrical parallel with the OPS closes. This bypasses the safety switch under the seat. If the operator stands, the parking brake switch still completes the ignition circuit.The mower blade turns only when the PTO engages. If the operator should leave the seat with the blade turning and under power, injuries could result. The mower blade would even continue spinning at full power if the machine overturned. To prevent this type of accident, engaging the PTO deactivates a connection in the original circuit and completes a second circuit in series with the OPS switch.

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Cub cadet 2135 wont start

check for a fuse behind the ignition
it might be blown
then i would check the starter solenoid
if you put a screwdriver accross the bolts that hold the wire from the starter and ignition switch and it tries to start there's ur problem.

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