Tip & How-To about Flotec FP7120 82 Gallon Pressure Tank

Leaking well pressure tank

This is for tanks that have a bladder inside which holds the water only. The air in the tank is above the bladder and applies pressure to the bladder using the wall of the medal tank as the envelope for the air. Most come pre-charged from the factory. Air and water NEVER mix in there. The valve stem is the entry point for the air is is NOT ATTACHED TO THE BLADDER.

I had an air leak somewhere in my tank system. Worst case the bladder was ruptured but I had to check. I had the pump recycle every 3 seconds. I must not have had any pressure in the tank. Checked it and I was right. Re- pressured it at the valve stem on top according to manuals instructions and then waited for a day to see if it held pressure 24 hours. It did not hold, so I got some liquid dish soap and spread some around the valve and it bubbled a lot.

NOTE: It could leak from the stem itself which is replaceable ( the un-screw-able cap covering the metal stem inside the rubber tube/stem.) You'll need a tire stem removal tool from Walmart for 50 cents. Usually in a packet with both the tool and a new stem. Looks like a cap with a forked prong on the back side.

Mine leaked around the base of the stem where it enters the tank.

I went on line to see if there is a remedy and most say no and replace entire tank. These things are hundreds of dollars...all for a $2 valve. So I let all the pressure out of the tank by uncapping the stem tower and released the pressure by pushing down inside on the plunger pin until all pressure is gone...or else the stem will shoot out like a bullet. Then I spread plenty of dish liquid around the hole entry area and gently tilted the stem all around in a circle. Kinda wiggling it in place to loosen up the rust grip. (Don't worry it won't come out. You would have to cut it to get it out. I suppose you probably could crack it if you rotate too extremely.) Use you own judgement here. All you are doing is getting the lube (soap) in the groove around the ring so you can get the rust grip loosened up so you can spin/turn the valve in place to loosen up the rust and gunk keeping it from sealing properly. I took a pair of vice grips and grabbed hold of the area just above the bulge where it comes out of the tank and turned it in place 2-3 rounds. Just enough vice grip to hold tight during the spin and not crush the tower. After the lube works in, it should seem easier to turn. Remember this is after you are ready to replace the tank and last ditch effort.

Re-pressure the tank and check for leaks. You don't have to put water back in to test the air pressure. Remember it should be there even without water as from the factory. Air it up and apply soap to test. Mine has been OK for months now.

A new bladder is almost as expensive as a new tank so that was a no go. I have located a replacement valve (see below). If you have been around car tubeless tires, this is the same thing on these tanks. They are inserted with a tool and are held in with rubber expanded in the hole rim after insertion. To get these out you have to cut them...that's how much the tool squeezes the rubber and seals the rim. They also can only go in from the under side...that's why these are so hard to do.

Anyway, if you want to try even more last effort, you can take the tank out in the yard, and flip it upside down and remove the bladder. Several nuts hold the ring in place which clamps the bladder opening to the water entry point. Take the bladder out and look inside the tank. At the top end is where the valve is. Flip it over and cut the stem out of the hole. Then go to an auto parts store and get a replacement valve which can be inserted from the inside and tightened with a nut on top. Replace the bladder and air it up properly VERY IMPORTANT.


I have found this one on Amazon which is a push it through the inside of the hole and do all the tightening from the top side. $8 for 4.

VTR TR-416 1 1/2" Outer Mount Metal Valve Stem (4 Pack)

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pump not holding presure

If you have a bladder - type water pressure tank, it probably needs to be purged of air and then pre-charged to 18 psi. There may be directions on the side of the tank. Turn the water Pump off. Drain the tank of water. Check the pressure of the tank at the air valve on top of the tank. The pre-charged pressure of the bladder is set to 2 psi below the lower pressure set by the pressure switch, so in your case, the low end pressure is 20 psi. Therefore, the pre-charge pressure of the tank is 18 psi. If you set the pressure switch to operate at 30 -50 psi, then the pre-charge pressure would be 28psi., etc. Once the pre-charge pressure is set, turn the pump back on. ( don't forget to close the drain valve). The system should cycle normally. A tire gauge works to check the tank pressure. An air compressor may be used to charge the tank, but be careful not to over- inflate the bladder. A tire air pump may also be used. Hope this helps....
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what is bladder tank?

A bladder tank is a water storage tank that is used to allow a pump to compress air inside the tank. Water can't be compressed so the tank is built with a bladder or balloon inside that allows the pump to be able to build up pressure inside the tank. This allows a pressure switch to turn on or turn off the pump. Typically if the bladder goes bad inside the tank the pump will cycle rather frequesntly.
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Culligan AC-30 Tank not Filling and Recharge only produces minimal water.

You should change filters and membrane and then proceed. Replace both filters not one. You mat to buy new RO unit that you can find filters on line ie store (less than you are going to pay for Culligan) PROCEDURE FOR RECHARGING REVERSE OSMOSIS BLADDER TANK WITH AIR
When you turn on the faucet you notice low water pressure from the storage tank and only a quick burst of water come out of the system, and it dies down to trickles. Is the tank defective, i.e., bladder has hole and not functioning properly? Perhaps.

If you have the above problem and the tank is heavy (full), then try to relief the pressure from the air valve on the tank side. Is water coming out? If the answer is yes, then the bladder has hole and is defective, and tank replacement is due. If air comes out then it is possible that the air needs to be recharged.

Notes on bladder tank, please continue reading:

RO Tank useful life is 5-7 years. If the tank has been serving you for that long it is possible that the bladder had a hole and that tank replacement is due. If the tank is not that old, it is worth it to evaluate it for air pressure. In an empty tank, air pressure should be 7-10 psi. In a full/heavy tank, air pressure should be 30-40 psi. To be accurate, air pressure should be 2/3 of incoming water pressure. When the tank is full, and if feed water pressure to the RO system is 60 psi, then a full tank should have 40 psi. The RO tank has a bladder inside, and this bladder separates air from water. On the lower side of the tank is the air valve which is connected to the compressed air chamber. The top water inlet/outlet port (where the tank valve is mounted) is connected to the pure water chamber. So, when you turn on the faucet, the compressed air would squeeze or compress the bladder to force the water out of the tank.

You do not want to believe the tank is useless and want to do extra testing? If your answer is yes, please continue reading.

TOOLS NEEDED FOR TESTING:

1. An air compressor or air pump (like a bicycle tire air pump)

2. An air pressure gauge that is able to read less than 10 psi, and

3. Adjustable wrench.

STEPS:

1. Shut off the water supply to the RO system

2. Turn on the faucet to allow water to run until it stops.

3. Check to see if there is still water in the storage tank by lifting the tank. If the tank feels heavy, that means you need to recharge the tank and continue the following steps. If the tank feels light, that means you don't need to charge your storage tank at this moment.

4. Locate the air valve on the side of the tank. It looks like the air valve on tires.

5. Use air compressor or air pump to pump air into the tank. Keep the faucet on while pumping air, so that all water inside the tank can be purged out.

6. After all water has been drained from the tank, use an air pressure gauge to check the tank pressure.

7. The tank should have 7 psi of pressure when it's empty. Add or purge air if necessary.

8. Turn the feed water valve back on, and turn off the faucet to allow refilling of the tank.

9. finished.

What if the tank does not hold pressure and you see the same problem again? Bladder is out and you need to replace the tank.
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when adding air to a pressure water pump ,i

Sounds like the bladder is gone or inproper air pressure in water storage tank.

Bladder goes bad check it out with step 1
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One way to check for sure with everything hooked up. The air valve on top of the tank if pressed you will get water out of the valve which should be only air. This will let you know it should replaced.

If Tank bladder is low in air and not water coming out.

2-If it checks ok put an air gauge to tank to check the air pressure, with a standard 40 gal tank you will have 28 psi of air in tank for it to function properly.
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Flotec 42 gallon water tank - short cycling and changing water stream...do I need a new tank or could it be another problem?

These holding tanks are pre charged with air which in turn pressurizes the water. The tank has a bladder and an air valve on top. The pre charge ,over time, loses pressure, and the tank has to be pressurized again.
  • The well pump needs to be turned off.
  • The water has to be drained from the tank
  • Air is put into the tank from the air valve on top of the tank, and is measured with a tire air gauge.
  • The pre charge pressure is set to two psi below the pump cut in pressure.
  • In other words if your pump kicks on at 30 psi, the pre charge pressure is set at 28 psi. If the pump kicks in at 20 psi, the pre charge is set at 18psi, etc.
  • After you pressurize the tank, turn water back on.
  • If water comes out of air valve on top of tank, then the bladder is ruptured and you need a new tank.
  • Hope this helps!
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