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Hi, I've got severe juddering when using the front brake. I've had the head race bearings checked and they appear ok. Any suggestions as to the cause?

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Possibly one of the following:

  • damaged brake disc(s)
  • damaged brake pad(s)
  • loose or damaged brake calliper(s)
  • grit between the disc & pad
If you have recently changed the brake pads, it may be that the new friction material of the pad is not interacting well with the brake disc. Cheap brake discs are made out of all sorts of ****, so you’re always better off spending a little extra on quality stoppers.

If you experience ANY problems under braking on any motorcycle, it's best you let a professional look at it. The consequences otherwise can be very serious indeed. Remember, stopping the bike safely is the MOST important part of riding a bike.

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Warped rotors, just like a car.

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