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Anonymous Posted on Mar 02, 2011

1998 frontier 4wd 4 cyl. just replaced front brake pads, rotors, and calipers. also replaced master cylinder. now the brake pedal pumps up without motor running, but as soon as motor is started, with pressure on pedal, pedal goes strait to floor? have bled brakes til nothing but fluid coming out. is it possible to still have an air pocket in lines?

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Yes may need to bleed lines at master cylnder

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    OH rest spliter block by pushing black button while someone pumps a time or 2 to reset then may need to bleed alittle more

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I think you have a issue with your power brake booster. If you have a solid pedal with the engine off, and while it is running the pedal "goes to the floor" then the booster is the cause. IF the pedal is soft with out the engine running it could be air in the lines. I would try to rebleed the brakes starting with the right rear wheel, then left rear, right front, and finally the left front. Any time brakes are bled you start at the wheel the farthest for the master cyl. and work closer. I hope this helps some.

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