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Anonymous Posted on Jan 09, 2011

My 2003 rav 4 4wd is actinmg strangely, sometimes if u r driving, n depress the gas pedal, it doesnt respond, but the rpm continues 2 increase, till after abt 4 secs, it wud kick in, with a soft thump n the car will now accelarate!...this haoppens intermittently..what cud be wrong with it?

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  • Anonymous Jan 10, 2011

    ok, thanks,
    but after going through the web, i came across a post on rav4world, where symptoms somewhat similar 2 mine are diagnoised as having the ecm/transmission problem that most 01 - 03 rav4's usually develop,
    am wondering if its the issue that am experiencing.
    when i put the car in reverse, it usually kicks in with a muffled thumping sound , like something just kicked in n the intermittent loss of power wch happens infrequently while driving.
    pls advise.

    nb. my tranny fluid is dark/dirty red...

  • Anonymous Jan 13, 2011

    changed the transmission fluid...apart from some sludge at the bootom, the fluid was relatively clean, the problem still persists.

    went ahead to also change the air filter as some peeps suggested, yet the problem is still there..

    now the error code p0755 n p1155 has popped up

  • Anonymous Jan 13, 2011

    changed out the tranny fluid, apart 4rm some gunk at the bottom, the fluid was fairly ok. but the prob still persists.
    also changed out the air filter, but the problem still persists...n now error codes p1135 n p0755 have popped up.

    am not so sure what 2 do next

  • bob reyes
    bob reyes Jan 09, 2018

    the ecm module you have to replace

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Sounds like transmission fluid and filter needs changing. It's one of the most overlooked maintenance items. Trans fluid and filter should be done every 50k miles. If you tow a trailer should be done 30k. (I assuming this is an automatic transmission. You didn't say)

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  • Anonymous Jan 09, 2011

    yes, its an auto transmission, 4wd..............any idea abt the location of the transmission fluid filter?........is the ops, something i can do on my own?.or it requires specialized skills?.
    i chked 4 the fluid...n its a bit rusty brown in color, n isnt very oily?....is that a good sign?

  • Anonymous Jan 09, 2011

    your fluid should be dark red not rusty. The filter is in lower section of transmission. You have to remove the pan, then remove filter usually held w small screws/bolts. Then reverse procedures and refill. It's not so much a specialty job, it's messy and you're working in really confined spaces. And small parts can easily get lost. I would have it done by a shop or tech, but watch the procedure, so you can do it yourself next time.

  • Anonymous Jan 10, 2011

    The ECM is a possibility but I'd do the fluid

  • morrill30200 Jan 28, 2011

    Send your ecm to one of the guys on e-bay and have them fix it. Type in emc repair for your vehical. It cost me around 65.00 for the repair. It solved the problem. It's been 16 months and no problems. When I put mine in reverse, it is as smooth as can be.

  • morrill30200 Jan 28, 2011

    Your ecm is behind your glove box and takes about 10 minutes to get out. You might pay a little more for the ecm repair for a 4x4 if I remember correctly.

  • Anonymous Jan 29, 2011

    ok, thanks i just got an ecm 4rm sergei guy in NY, hvnt test driven it yet, but initial results are looking good, it enters reverse smoothly now, will test it on the freeway today.will keep u guys posted

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