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Oil leaking into cooling system but no coolant in crankcase, also oil leaking from engine as it is all over frame and oil pan. engine starts and runs but heater does not get warm...??? 2003 saturn vue with 3.0 V6 and automatic tranny.

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Looks like a head gasket failure. Oil is escaping out of the engine and within the engine into the coolant passageways. The oil pressure system is run at higher pressure than the coolant pressure and fortunately this has so far kept the water from entering the oil and crankcase. I have no faith at all in any after-market product that claims it can repair leaks by simply adding it to the coolant or oil and taking a head off is not a trivial task. It may also be that the head has warped (this would also cause the leak) and this in turn will require it to be re-machined. Head gaskets are not expensive but due to the work involved this could be one occasion when a visit to a machine shop is the best option.

  • frankenbob May 27, 2010

    would a compression chec verify blown gasket or cracked/warped head?

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You could have a blowen head gasket this can cause blowby witch will shoot oil all over the place did you over heat this car? hope this helps CJ

  • frankenbob May 27, 2010

    would a compressiom check help verify blown head gasket and / or cracked or warped head ?

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Removal & Installation

2.4L Engine

  1. Before servicing the vehicle, refer to the Precautions Section.
  2. Drain the engine oil.
  3. Remove or disconnect the following:

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  1. Install or connect the following:

    Oil pan gasket to the block after applying engine RTV at the oil pump parting line Oil pan. Torque the bolts to 105 inch lbs. (12 Nm). Structural collar Negative battery cable
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    Fig. Oil pan mounting bolt tightening sequence-3.0L engine


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  3. Remove or disconnect the following:

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Fig. 6: Oil pan mounting bolt locations-1996 3.1L engine shown

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  1. Before servicing the vehicle, refer to the precautions section.
  2. Drain the engine oil.
  3. Remove or disconnect the following:
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To install:


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Fig. Exploded view of the oil pan mounting and related components-2.2L (VIN 4) engine
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  2. Drain the engine oil.
  3. Remove or disconnect the following:
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    Fig. Remove/Install the oil pan bolts in this sequence-2.2L (VIN F) engine
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  2. Install or connect the following:
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  3. Refill the crankcase.
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  1. Before servicing the vehicle, refer to the precautions section.
  2. Drain the engine oil.
  3. Drain the cooling system.
  4. Remove or disconnect the following:
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To install:
  1. Inspect the oil pan gasket; it is reusable if not damaged.
  2. Install or connect the following:
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    Fig. Oil pan fastener torque specifications-2.4L engine
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