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When clutch depressed starter motor dosen't work

Starter motor won't work at all when clutch depressed battery is fine appears to be electrical fault

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Could be as easy as a defective clutch safety switch that is bad. if you can find it.. push in and out on the switch to feel its integrity. it should click in and out while you hold the clutch lever down with your other hand...it might just be stuck in the depressed (or pedal up) safety position...try some wd-40.. spray just a little into the switch assembly move depress it a couple of times and see if it wont clear it up..it might just be dirty. if it doesn't come out then the spring return inside it is probably damaged and it will have to be replaced.

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Try to move the floor mat out from under the clutch pedal and push clutch all the way down. if it starts then adjust clutch switch. if not then a full diagnosis of starter system is required

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