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Sometimes stalls or surges when hot, runs hot

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Clean the temperature sensor wire connector.
Replace the temp sensor near the thermostat hosing.

Check the condition of the sensor wire cut(s) or short onto the engine block.

Monitor the fan operation with the hood open during warm up (0-15 minutes.) It should ran after the engine coolant temp get above 195F +.

Test fan relay.

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