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Replace drivers door due to crash. old door had 3

Replaced drivers door due to crash. old door had 3 electrical connectors in door jamb,the replaced door only has 2, what is the 3rd connector for and what will not work due to not connecting the third connector. Vehicle is 1991 Honda Accord EX with power windows, locks, mirrors.

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You have to examine and compare the two doors. I am just guessing but I would bet that it is the power mirror that your new door is lacking.

Just follow the wiring into each door.

1. Power locks wires should run to a region near the latch mechanism.
2. Power Windows wires should run to somewhere in the middle of the door.
3. Power mirror should run almost straight up towards the mirror assembly.

If it is the power mirror assembly you should be able to transplant your old one provided that it is not damaged.

If it is power windows, adapting power windows will be much harder as the new door may or may not have the provisions for mounting the regulator, etc.

If it is power locks you may need to transplant the latch and actuator assembly along with its wiring.

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