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James Rundio Posted on Jul 14, 2018
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I have an 05 Malibu Classic. It quit starting with no fuel pressure to the rail. I replaced the fuel pump and relay, and still had the same problem. I jumped the relay from the 87 to 30 terminal and it started right up. I switched the relay with the horn relay and the horn worked. What would cause this?

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Did you have it checked for code's ? The PCM / ECM supply's Battery voltage to control ( energize ) the fuel pump relay . Using a voltmeter you can check for B+ voltage at pin 85 or 86 ,which ever one comes from the engine computer ,the other goes to ground . This is provided the anti-theft system light isn't lit . Watch this video on testing at the fuel pump relay GM vehicle's
GM Fuel Pump Relay Testing

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  • Posted on May 24, 2010

SOURCE: 2000 Malibu Starts then looses

Keep in mind that you have several components there:
- Fuel Pump Sender Assembly,
- Fuel Pressure Regulator,
- Fuel Rail Assembly, and
- Fuel Injectors.

1.- Fuel Pump (Sender Assembly) - TESTING
Refer to the accompanying charts for fuel pump diagnosis and testing.

The fuel injection system remains under pressure, even after the engine has been turned OFF. The fuel system pressure must be relieved before disconnecting any fuel lines. Failure to do so may result in fire and/or personal injury.

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Fig. 3.1L engine OBD system check to be done before fuel pump relay circuit diagnosis


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Fig. 3.1L engine fuel pump relay circuit diagnosis (1 of 2)


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Fig. 3.1L engine fuel pump relay circuit diagnosis (2 of 2)


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Fig. View of the fuel pressure test port (Schrader valve)-3.1L engine

A - 3.1L engine fuel system pressure test (1 of 4)
B - 3.1L engine fuel system pressure test (2 of 4)
C - 3.1L engine fuel system pressure test (3 of 4)
D - 3.1L engine fuel system pressure test (4 of 4)

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Fig. The fuel pump/fuel sender module assembly is mounted in the fuel tank


2.-
Fuel Pressure Regulator - REMOVAL & INSTALLATION

(the fuel pressure regulator, which is located on the fuel rail assembly)

NOTE:
Before removing the fuel regulator assembly, place a clean shop towel under the regulator to catch any fuel drips

  1. Properly relieve the fuel system pressure.
  2. If not done already, disconnect the negative battery cable.
  3. On the 3.1L engine, remove the intake manifold plenum, as outlined in .
  4. On the 2.4L engine, remove the fuel rail. Refer to procedure earlier in this section.
  5. Detach the vacuum line from the regulator.
  6. Place a shop towel under the regulator to catch any fuel that may drip out. Unfasten the fuel pressure regulator retaining screw, then remove the regulator by twisting and pulling it from the fuel rail.
  7. Remove and discard the O-ring seal. Inspect the filter screen for contamination and replace if necessary.
To install:
  1. Prior to assembling the pressure regulator to the fuel rail, lubricate the new rail-to-regulator O-ring seal with clean engine oil.
  2. Place the O-ring on the pressure regulator and install the pressure regulator to the fuel rail.
  3. Install the retainer or coat the regulator mounting screws with an approved thread locking compound and secure the pressure regulator in place. Tighten the mounting screw to 76 inch lbs. (8.5 Nm).
  4. If removed, install the fuel rail assembly to the engine.
WARNING The fuel return pipe must be connected before tightening the regulator retaining screw to prevent the regulator from rotating. Rotation of the regulator could damage the retainer and spacer bracket and lead to a fuel leak at the regulator inlet.
  1. Connect the fuel feed line and return line to the fuel rail assembly, use a backup wrench on the fittings to prevent turning.
  2. Attach the vacuum line to the regulator.
  3. On the 3.1L engine, install the intake manifold plenum.
  4. Connect the negative battery cable. Turn the ignition to the ON position for two seconds, then turn it to the OFF position for ten seconds. Turn again to the ON position and check for fuel leaks.

continue...

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SOURCE: 99 Mercury Cougar won't start. I turned key to start, has current to relay. Jumped relay, will turn over. Spark to plugs but no fuel to injectors. Fuel pressure in fuel rail. No check engine

Have you checked the automatic shut down relay ?
It powers the injectors from a 20amp fuse number 5.

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