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Sun roof will not close on a 2003 For Expedition E.B.
Seems like the motor is still good. But
the glass is fully open and stuck open. Any way to fix this without getting robbed at the dealership ????
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Hi. I was having trouble with my sun roof on a 2004 Montecarlo. I had two issues water coming in and would not operate fully. I could toggle the switch and it would not move very far. this is what I found. I started to pull down the lining and saw that the motor was in front of the sun roof. I found the drain lines on the front side corners of the tray around the inside of the sun roof. I found that the tube ran down the pillar's and out between the door hinge's. I took them off and blow them out one was plugged up. That fixed the water problem. The roof would move with help from me pushing. I got it opened and noticed the grease was hard. I cleaned up the grease and removed most of it with WD40. Now the sun roof works good as new. I thought the water problem was because the roof was not fully closed but I guess it is designed to have water pass by the roof seal and have it drain away. I always noticed water under the car after a rain or a car wash but did not realize iit was the sun roof draining.
caution if it opens you may not be able to close it again, this sounds like the track broke or something in the motor. lets hope its the motor as if its the track then the whole track needs to be replaced, there is no repairing a broken sunroof track.
I have built, repaired and installed sunroofs for 20 years. Its hard to tell what problem is, so many variations for motors with relays, cams, programed circuit boards. To get the roof closed you can drop motor usually 3 screws then pull glass forward as far as you can, then from inside of truck you will have to take a screw driver and finish sliding cable forward somehow. When sliding by hand watch on the inside to see what parts are moving so you can finish sliding forward. Hope this helps.
Ok Ken... there are two cables which run parallel between the sunroof motor gear. Seems to me one of those cables (the one that runs to the 'right') is damaged/stripped and is not raising the roof on that side. Remove the overhead map light assy & then remove the sunroof motor & inspect the cables.. bet you'll find the problem there.
Section 01-17: Roof Panel, Sliding—Electric
1996 Taurus, Sable Workshop Manual
DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION
Electric Operation
The sliding roof panel (502B98):
is available as an option.
is electrically operated through the accessory delay relay (controlled by generic electronic module (GEM)).
is of self-storing design.
requires a specific headliner.
utilizes a unique roof console and dome lamp.
has an air deflector.
The electrical system operates in the following manner:
Two switches control movement of the roof panel.
When the SLIDE roof sliding panel switch (15B691) is rocked rearward, the roof sliding outer glass panel (502A82) slides into the storage space between the roof trim panel (51968) and the roof panel, exposing an opening over the front seats.
When the SLIDE roof sliding panel switch is rocked forward with the roof sliding outer glass panel fully back in the storage space, the roof sliding outer glass panel moves forward from the storage position.
The rear portion of the roof sliding outer glass panel moves upward on two lifter arms near the end of the forward travel, allowing a weather-tight seal when the roof sliding outer glass panel is closed.
An AUTO feature allows the SLIDE roof sliding panel switch to be touched momentarily to cause the roof panel to automatically move to the fully open position.
When the TILT roof sliding panel switch is rocked forward with the roof sliding outer glass panel fully forward, the rear of the roof sliding outer glass panel pops up to the VENT position.
With the roof sliding outer glass panel in the VENT position, rocking the TILT roof sliding panel switch rearward closes the roof sliding outer glass panel.
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Sliding Roof Panel Does Not Open or Close
Open power feed fuse.
Circuitry open/shorted.
Damaged roof sliding panel switch.
Damaged sliding roof panel motor.
VISUAL INSPECTION CHART
Mechanical
Electrical
Damaged roof panel
Obstructed roof panel
Guide
Damaged drive cable(s)
Open Power Distribution Box Fuses 1 (40A) or 4 (30A)
small cover on older models front center of headliner,motor for roof has a cam that controls operation.I assume fuses were checked..two small switches are riding on this cam.plastic cam messes up switches.you may have to remove headliner to access motor/cam assy.if cables are broken, stuck, assembly may have to be replaced..
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