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Why is lower radiator hose cold when motor is at operating temperature?

I replaced thermostat, since the car had a DCT for thermostat. After replacing, the bottom radiator hose is cold. i took the thermostat back out and checked it in a boiling water pot, and it wouldn't open. got a replacement from the store and it opened good in the boiling water. reinstalled and the car still has cold lower radiator hose. car has good heat so i think maybe water pump is bad or radiator is blocked? anyone seen this problem before?

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Ensure thermostat is installed right side up or it wont allow proper flow. If thermostat is correct other problems could be Air in cooling system, low coolant level, plugged rad internal, water pump failure,coolant flow valve stuck,internal engine combustion leak to cooling system.
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