Cars & Trucks Logo
D
Douglas Moore Posted on Aug 23, 2014

Why is there no reistance in my ignition until after starter is engaged?

Was told rack assembly sounds like the problem as cylinder is good. When i turn ignition slowly i am able start without flywheel screeching.if i turn to where normnal pressure is applied to engage, starter is already going and flywheel screams,. I am then able to ease key backwards, stop screeching and vehicle runs perfectly.

1 Answer

Tracy L

Level 1:

An expert who has achieved level 1.

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

New Friend:

An expert that has 1 follower.

Hot-Shot:

An expert who has answered 20 questions.

  • Contributor 26 Answers
  • Posted on Sep 06, 2014
Tracy L
Contributor
Level 1:

An expert who has achieved level 1.

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

New Friend:

An expert that has 1 follower.

Hot-Shot:

An expert who has answered 20 questions.

Joined: Aug 02, 2010
Answers
26
Questions
0
Helped
13874
Points
36

Replace the ignition assembly on the steering column. The return spring is in that module. Be sure to put your original lock cylinder back into the new assembly so you can use the same key. If you get a used one with the key cylinder in it, make sure you get the key that matches the lock. If not, switching the original lock back in is a real pain. With the correct key, you just rotate the key to the start/ignition position, push a nail/probe into the hole on top of the assembly and the lock cylinder should be able to pull out.

5 Related Answers

Anonymous

  • 962 Answers
  • Posted on Nov 23, 2008

SOURCE: 94 cavalier cranks, ignites, then stalls

Most scanners will only give you a code for 1995 and up. But it seems that it could be a Crankshaft Position Sensor.Try disconnecting the negative battery cable and let it sit for a few minutes. then reconnecting it back. if not you can go to Autozone and they will scan your car with a very expensive scanner and give you a code. they usually do it for free. I think it's either the CPS or some other densor such as the MAP, MAF . You can only know if the engine is scanned.

Ad

Anonymous

  • 45 Answers
  • Posted on Jan 09, 2009

SOURCE: 03 silverado turn the key to start but starter will not engage

Interesting problem, on the starter is a "trigger" wire that originates from the ignition (may run to the power distribution center). When the truck is started 12 volts runs down that wire and activates the solinoid on the starter. Put a 12 volt test light on the trigger wire by the starter, have someone hit the key to start, test light should come on, if not chase wire back and look for a break in the wire or replace trigger wire.

johnthejag

John Quinn

  • 286 Answers
  • Posted on Jan 21, 2009

SOURCE: starter starts...engine dosn't crank...starter dosn't stop.

Hi

An unusual one here !

Suspect the problem lies in the starter solenoid.

But most strange a for constant live feed with ignition off.

May possibly be more a relay problem ?

Good Luck

John.

P.S. Don´t forget to give me a rating please !







Anonymous

  • 24 Answers
  • Posted on Feb 07, 2009

SOURCE: entire 1996 blazer electrical dies when starter solenoid engaged

bad ground cable,use a jumper cable from negative to alternator bracket, if it starts thats it.

Anonymous

  • 128 Answers
  • Posted on Nov 30, 2010

SOURCE: 98 chevy cavalier starter stays engaged WITHOUT

Starter pinion sticking. Remove starter and inspect. May need new starter

Ad

Add Your Answer

×

Uploading: 0%

my-video-file.mp4

Complete. Click "Add" to insert your video. Add

×

Loading...
Loading...

Related Questions:

0helpful
1answer

Ba Falcon auto when changing into 4 th gear it's like it holds back then bangs into 4th changed gearbox but doing exactly the same thing I am not sure what is causing this.

Ford Falcon (BA)<< real name.
produced by Ford Australia from 2002 to 2005. no engine told of 5. non turbo right?
no vin told
no country told (down under?) we dont do cars down under.
no year car told
A/T box failures.vary by all that.
4-speed automatic BTR
guess 4.0L engine with ?????
M93LE box???? if yes, it must be OBD2 scanned. generic, last shifts are caused by.
reverse works ok
Low works ok, PRNDL
only Drive fails. and is only 3>4 shift (late and harsh)
causes are bad shift solenoid,
VSS errors
there is no Governor , the TCM does the shifting based on engine load and RPM and VSS sensors. so of engine fails, it will not go to 4th gear. correctly or late..
or if tranny has a TV cable if present.bad. rusted and stuck out.

you failed to scan the PCM/TCM
using a OBD2 scan tool. but Australia is 2006 up compliance.,
no year car told at all making any exact answer super hard.
but here is a try. lacking OBD2 port only OBD1 tools work.
I guess
Falcon (Aust.) BA 2002-05V6, 4.0L BTR M93LE
bad accumulator inside box, causing harsh shifts
sticking solenoid. to 4th release 3 fails then works4. BANG
seems the TCM is confused. if 2 boxes fail.
TCM must be scanned as the service manual directs.
0helpful
1answer

1992 nissan maxima se 3.0 L new starter, solenoid, all relays, ignition switch still wont engage when jumping solenoid just bendix sound if I use ignition sw.wont do nothing help plz

If the starter works on the bench and you are manually energising the solenoid (to the little terminal) then it should work on the car if the battery is good and all the wiring and ground connections are good.

Shorting the two large solenoid terminals will just switch on the motor without engaging the pinion.

In your position I would have fitted a temporary starter switch until I found time to sort the problem out.

I suggest you remove the column shroud to expose the ignition switch wiring and bridge the supply to the starter terminal and if it starts the ignition starter switch (or the internal drive) is faulty and if it doesn't there is a wiring problem between the switch and the starter.
0helpful
1answer

Why is there no resistance in ignition switch until starter is engaged and then flywheel screeches until turning key back to certain spot

Need your model and year to help with this problem. Your start return spring is broken. In most designs, the ignition switch includes the return spring for the start position.
0helpful
1answer

Why is there no resistance in ignition switch until starter is engaged and then flywheel screeches until turning key back to certain spot

ether the lock mechanism or ignition switch--dont go to a dealer--seek am xperiencd pro--ask him if hes done this--get a feel-----also send issue to magicmechanic online for a second opinion--he will reply and is very smart
0helpful
1answer

1987 Camaro w/tilt.Steering assembly loose...6-8 in. slack.

Sounds like the vehicle has had a rough time. If you can even get the parts to do a repair would be the real question. it will certainly be simpler to replace it with a recondition assembly. You should get a Haynes or Chilton's repair manual on your vehicle to directions and help in doing the repair.
1helpful
1answer

How to change a tumbler we changed the ignition cilinder and it will turn but only in the direction of acc and not start position. is there a pin or something we are not seeing

Ignition lock cylinder removal


4adb8e2.gif
WARNING On vehicles with air bags, disable the SIR system. The vehicles wheels must be in the straight ahead position and the key must be in the LOCK position when removing or installing the steering column. Failure to do so may cause the SIR coil assembly to become uncentered and may result in otherwise unneeded SIR repairs.


  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. If equipped, properly disable the SIR system, as outlined in Section 6 of this manual.
  3. Remove the left side lower trim panel.
  4. Remove the steering column-to-support screws and lower the steering column.
  5. Unplug the dimmer switch and turn signal switch connectors.
  6. Remove the wiring harness-to-firewall nuts.
  7. Remove the steering column-to-steering gear bolt and remove the steering column from the vehicle.
  8. Remove the combination switch.
  9. Place the lock cylinder in the RUN position.
  10. Remove the steering shaft assembly and turn signal switch housing as an assembly.
  11. Using the terminal remover tool No. J 35689A or equivalent, label and unplug the wires F and G on the connector at the buzzer switch assembly from the turn signal switch electrical harness connector.
  12. With the lock cylinder in the RUN position, remove the buzzer switch.
  13. Place the lock cylinder in the ACCESSORY position, remove the lock cylinder retaining screw, and remove the lock cylinder.
  14. Remove the dimmer switch nut/bolt, the dimmer switch, and the actuator rod.
  15. Remove the dimmer switch mounting stud (the mounting nut was attached to it).
  16. Remove the ignition switch-to-steering column screws and the ignition switch.
  17. Remove the lockbolt screws and the lockbolt.
  18. Remove the switch actuator rack and ignition switch.
  19. Remove the steering shaft lock and spring.
To install:
  1. To install the lockbolt, lubricate it with lithium grease and install the lockbolt, spring and retaining plate.
  2. Lubricate the teeth on the switch actuator rack, install the rack and the ignition switch through the opening in the steering bolt until it rests on the retaining plate.
  3. Install the steering column lock cylinder set by holding the barrel of the lock cylinder, inserting the key and turning the key to the ACCESSORY position.
  4. Install the lock set in the steering column while holding the rack against the lockplate.
  5. Install the lock retaining screw. Insert the key in the lock cylinder and turn the lock cylinder to the START position and the rack will extend.
  6. Center the slotted holes on the ignition switch mounting plate and install the ignition switch mounting screw and nut.
  7. Install the dimmer switch and actuator rod into the center slot on the switch mounting plate.
  8. Install the buzzer switch and turn the lock cylinder to the RUN position. Push the switch in until it is bottomed out with the plastic tab that covers the lock retaining screw.
  9. Install the steering shaft and turn signal housing as an assembly.
  10. Install the turn signal switch. Install the steering wheel to the column, and tighten the steering shaft nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 Nm).
  11. Install the steering column in the vehicle. Connect all electrical leads. Install the lower trim panels.
  12. Connect the negative battery cable.
  13. If equipped, properly enable the SIR system, as outlined in Section 6 of this manual.
  14. Check steering column operations.
2helpful
3answers

The ignition cylinder turns free not engaging the starter. I need to know just what is between the cylinder and the ignition switch

The cylinder engages a gear which moves a rack (straight piece with gear teeth) which changes the rotational movement into straight movement. The rack connects to a rod which runs down the top side of the steering column to the switch which is above your feet. Most likely, the switch is bad which is fairly easy to change. The second choice is problems with the gear/rack assembly which is very difficult to get to, requiring removal of the steering wheel and a lot of little pieces. Good luck.
0helpful
1answer

How do u chang the ingition switch

Removal & Installation

20e68cc.gif
Park/lock cable removal

cb26f89.gif
Ignition switch alignment

a9987b4.gif
Ignition lock cylinder removal

WARNING On vehicles with air bags, disable the SIR system. The vehicles wheels must be in the straight ahead position and the key must be in the LOCK position when removing or installing the steering column. Failure to do so may cause the SIR coil assembly to become uncentered and may result in otherwise unneeded SIR repairs.


  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. If equipped, properly disable the SIR system, as outlined in Section 6 of this manual.
  3. Remove the left side lower trim panel.
  4. Remove the steering column-to-support screws and lower the steering column.
  5. Unplug the dimmer switch and turn signal switch connectors.
  6. Remove the wiring harness-to-firewall nuts.
  7. Remove the steering column-to-steering gear bolt and remove the steering column from the vehicle.
  8. Remove the combination switch.
  9. Place the lock cylinder in the RUN position.
  10. Remove the steering shaft assembly and turn signal switch housing as an assembly.
  11. Using the terminal remover tool No. J 35689A or equivalent, label and unplug the wires F and G on the connector at the buzzer switch assembly from the turn signal switch electrical harness connector.
  12. With the lock cylinder in the RUN position, remove the buzzer switch.
  13. Place the lock cylinder in the ACCESSORY position, remove the lock cylinder retaining screw, and remove the lock cylinder.
  14. Remove the dimmer switch nut/bolt, the dimmer switch, and the actuator rod.
  15. Remove the dimmer switch mounting stud (the mounting nut was attached to it).
  16. Remove the ignition switch-to-steering column screws and the ignition switch.
  17. Remove the lockbolt screws and the lockbolt.
  18. Remove the switch actuator rack and ignition switch.
  19. Remove the steering shaft lock and spring.
To install:
  1. To install the lockbolt, lubricate it with lithium grease and install the lockbolt, spring and retaining plate.
  2. Lubricate the teeth on the switch actuator rack, install the rack and the ignition switch through the opening in the steering bolt until it rests on the retaining plate.
  3. Install the steering column lock cylinder set by holding the barrel of the lock cylinder, inserting the key and turning the key to the ACCESSORY position.
  4. Install the lock set in the steering column while holding the rack against the lockplate.
  5. Install the lock retaining screw. Insert the key in the lock cylinder and turn the lock cylinder to the START position and the rack will extend.
  6. Center the slotted holes on the ignition switch mounting plate and install the ignition switch mounting screw and nut.
  7. Install the dimmer switch and actuator rod into the center slot on the switch mounting plate.
  8. Install the buzzer switch and turn the lock cylinder to the RUN position. Push the switch in until it is bottomed out with the plastic tab that covers the lock retaining screw.
  9. Install the steering shaft and turn signal housing as an assembly.
  10. Install the turn signal switch. Install the steering wheel to the column, and tighten the steering shaft nut to 30 ft. lbs. (41 Nm).
  11. Install the steering column in the vehicle. Connect all electrical leads. Install the lower trim panels.
  12. Connect the negative battery cable.
  13. If equipped, properly enable the SIR system, as outlined in Section 6 of this manual.
  14. Check steering column operations.
0helpful
1answer

When starting 1997 aspire in morning-delay in starting

Starter solenoid probably.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sequence of Operation

NOTE: An overrunning clutch in the drive assembly protects the starter motor (11002) from excessive speeds during the brief period before the driver releases the ignition switch (11572) from the START position (as the engine (6007) starts).

  1. The ignition switch is turned to the START position.
  1. The starter solenoid (11390) is energized, creating a magnetic field in the solenoid coil.
  1. The iron plunger core is drawn into the solenoid coil.
  1. A drive lever and pin (11067) connected to the drive assembly engages the starter drive (11350) to the flywheel ring gear.
  1. When the iron plunger core is all the way into the coil, its contact disc closes the circuit between the battery (10655) and the starter motor terminals.
  1. The current flows to the starter motor, and the starter drive cranks the flywheel (6375) and the crankshaft (6303).
  1. As current flows to the starter motor, the pull-in coil is bypassed.
  1. The hold-in coil keeps the starter drive engaged with the flywheel.
  1. The starter drive remains engaged until the ignition switch is released from the START position.

fe56034.gif
#1 is the stater with the solenoid on top of it.
0helpful
1answer

My car wouldn't start one day

The lock cylinder(where you insert the key) fires up a ignition switck that could be bad.I ntfires up accessories on first clic k, and engages the start on full crank....If the car was not turning over,switch could be bad,or if it has a clutch switch(If manuel trans) You will have to test for power at solenoid on starter with a test light.(very cheap and simple to use) If there is power when you try to cranknit at starter solenoin,then its probobly your starter....if no power and a stick shift,you can bypass te clutch switch to test by unplugging at switch and connecting the two wires together...if automatic,it is most likely the ignition switch,technically not the lock cylinder...hope this helps....Lee
Not finding what you are looking for?

113 views

Ask a Question

Usually answered in minutes!

Top Chevrolet Experts

ZJ Limited
ZJ Limited

Level 3 Expert

17989 Answers

john h

Level 3 Expert

29494 Answers

Thomas Perkins
Thomas Perkins

Level 3 Expert

15088 Answers

Are you a Chevrolet Expert? Answer questions, earn points and help others

Answer questions

Manuals & User Guides

Loading...