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IF both remotes are dead will this cause the theft system to keep car from starting?

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No it wont. now what you do is turn the key to the on position. do not attempt to start, just leave it in the on position for 10 mins. it must be 10 mins to reset theft sytem, turn key off wait 5 sec and turn back on make sure theft light goes away and start

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HOW DO YOU FIX THE ALERO ANTI THEFT PROBLEM IF IT KEEPS COMIING ON

I am assuming the light you are talking about is the "SECURITY" light on the dash. Your Alero is equipped with GM's Passlock system which cuts fuel to your engine if it determines that a source other than the key is trying to start the car.

I found this online, i posted it somewhere else as well and heard it would work...goodluck

PASSLOCK I or II DISABLEMENT
The following is a procedure to disable Passlock I or II Systems for vehicles in which remote start/stop system installations are required. This procedure is required because a remote start system will not function with the current Theft Deterrent System (Passlock) which is included on many 1996 and up GM vehicles.

Please note that this modification is intended to be used only in conjunction with the installation of a remote start/stop system and does not provide a procedure to install a remote start/stop system.

CAUSE
If an attempt is made to start a vehicle by a means other than a key rotation in the ignition switch, the Body Control Module (BCM) will interpret this start as a vehicle theft and disable the fuel injectors.

CORRECTION
A minor wiring modification may be made to allow the vehicle to be started remotely. This modification includes adding a switch to allow the customer to select "ON" to disable Passlock or "OFF" for normal Passlock operation.

CAUTION: When this modification is performed and the switch is set to the ON position, the theft deterrent feature will be disabled. When the theft deterrent is disabled the SECURITY or THEFT telltale will light up indicating that the theft deterrent system is NOT functioning.

PASSLOCK MODIFICATION
Refer to appropriate GM service manuals and/or SVMQP Electrical Guideline Manual for instruction on splicing and electrical connections.
1. Select a suitable on-off switch (see note below) which will be used to disable/enable the Passlock System. Mount the switch in a location such that it is accessible to the driver and will not interfere with normal vehicle operation.
NOTE: This is an extremely low current circuit (approx. 7mA), it is therefore very important that a high quality, low energy, fast acting switch be utilized for this application.
2. Turn the ignition switch to the OFF position.
3. Locate the Main Ignition Switch Harness in the Column. GM's Passlock System wires exit the Ignition Switch Tumbler together and then join with the Main Ignition Switch Harness. (See http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/ or http://64.85.6.118/diagrams/diagrams.asp and select your Make, Model and Year for wire colors and clues on the quickest way to access these wires.)
4. Locate the Yellow Passlock Data Wire which is included in a bundle of three tiny (20 GA) wires wrapped in friction tape.
Cut this wire and splice a 0.5mm2 (20 GA) yellow wire to each end of the cut wire.
Keep wire length to a minimum. Route modification wires clear of moving parts.
Connect the yellow wires to the switch such that the contacts are OPEN when the switch is in the ON position.
5. Turn modification switch to the OFF postion (contacts closed).
6. Start vehicle to verify normal operation. If engine "cranks but will not start" recheck the switch position (contacts should be closed), wire connectors and modification wiring.

SWITCH OPERATION
To enable remote start:
Start the engine with the ignition key (modification switch must be in the OFF position). Turn modification switch to the ON position (contacts open). The SECURITY or THEFT telltale will light up indicating that the Passlock System is inoperative.Once the SECURITY or THEFT telltale has been on for at least 5 seconds the vehicle can be turned off and then remotely started.

To disable remote start:
The Passlock System can be reactivated by turning the modification switch OFF (contacts closed). Vehicle can either be running or off when this is done.

Please note that the VCM/PCM will record Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) related to the security system when the modification switch is in the ON position (circuit open). This is due to the way that the VCM/PCM interprets this condition.

NOTICE
Any condition which removes battery power from the Vehicle Control Module/Powertrain Control Module (VCM/PCM) (e.g. dead battery, disconnected harness connectors, etc.) will prevent the vehicle from being restarted. If the engine exhibits a "cranks but will not start" symptom, place the modification switch in the OFF (contacts closed) position. This will reactivate the Passlock System and allow the vehicle to be started with the ignition key.

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check to see if the security light or anti theft light flashes. if that is the case, sounds like the bypass for the remote starter may be causeing the no start by tripping the anti theft system. Remove remote starter and bypass system and join any cut wires back together that may be cut for remote starter. Try starting, if theft light still flashes leave key in the on position after attempted start for 15 minutes till theft light goes solid, turn off and try again. Repeat process for three times to re-learn factory theft system in vehicle. If problem still persists, then take to your local dealer to reprogram factory theft module in the cluster.
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No power to anything - how do I reset anti-theft system? Checked battery at Wal-mart - print out says okay low on charge. Charged battery for several hours on slow charge and then fast charge. Battery...

no... no power to anything means like the headlights are inop and such

in that case its a battery or battery cable issue

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simply pressing the unlock button on your remotes will resolve this

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Car wont start reads pass key fault

Passlock I reset.

1. Attempt to start the car, let it stall, but DO NOT turn the key off! Leave it in RUN.
2. Wait 10 minutes or until the Theft Sys light glows steady instead of blinking.
3. Do not turn the key off, but start it immediately.
4. This should reset your Passlock system.




PASSLOCK I or II DISABLEMENT

The following is a procedure to disable Passlock I or II Systems for vehicles
in which remote start/stop system installations are required. This procedure
is required because a remote start system will not function with the current
Theft Deterrent System (Passlock) which is included on many 1996 and up GM
vehicles.

Please note that this modification is intended to be used only in conjunction
with the installation of a remote start/stop system and does not provide a
procedure to install a remote start/stop system.

CAUSE
If an attempt is made to start a vehicle by a means other than a key rotation
in the ignition switch, the Body Control Module (BCM) will interpret this
start as a vehicle theft and disable the fuel injectors.

CORRECTION
A minor wiring modification may be made to allow the vehicle to be started
remotely. This modification includes adding a switch to allow the customer to
select ?ON? to allow remote starting or ?OFF? for normal Passlock operation.

CAUTION: When this modification is performed and the switch is set to the ON
position, the theft deterrent feature will be disabled. When the theft
deterrent is disabled the SECURITY/THEFT SYSTEM telltale will light up
indicating that the theft deterrent system is NOT functioning.

PASSLOCK MODIFICATION
Refer to appropriate GM service manuals and/or SVMQP Electrical Guideline
Manual for instruction on splicing and electrical connections.
1. Select a suitable on-off switch (see note below) which will be used to
disable/
enable the Passlock System. Mount the switch in a location such that it is
accessible to the driver and will not interfere with normal vehicle operation.


NOTE: This is an extremely low current circuit (approx. 7mA), it is therefore
very important that a high quality, low energy, fast acting switch be
utilized for this application.
2. Turn the ignition switch to the OFF position.
3. Locate the Main Ignition Switch Harness in the Column. GM's Passlock
System wires exit the Ignition Switch Tumbler together and then join with the
Main Ignition Switch Harness. (See http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/ or
http://64.85.6.118/diagrams/diagrams.asp and select your Make, Model and
Year for wire colors and clues on the quickest way to access these wires.)
4. Locate the Yellow Passlock Data Wire which is included in a bundle of
three tiny (20 GA) wires wrapped in friction tape.
Cut this wire and splice a 0.5mm2 (20 GA) yellow wire to each end of the cut
wire.
Keep wire length to a minimum. Route modification wires clear of moving parts.


Connect the yellow wires to the switch such that the contacts are OPEN when
the switch is in the ON position.
5. Turn modification switch to the OFF postion (contacts closed).
6. Start vehicle to verify normal operation. If engine ?cranks but will not
start"
recheck the switch position (contacts should be closed), wire connectors and
modification wiring.

SWITCH OPERATION

To enable remote start:
Start the engine with the ignition key (modification switch must be in the
OFF
position). Turn modification switch to the ON position (contacts open). The
SECURITY/THEFT SYSTEM Telltale will light up indicating that the Passlock
System is inoperative.
Once the SECURITY/THEFT SYSTEM telltale has been on for at least 5 seconds
the vehicle can be turned off and then remotely started.

To disable remote start:
The Passlock System can be reactivated by turning the modification switch OFF
(contacts closed). Vehicle can either be running or off when this is done.

Please note that the VCM/PCM will record Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs)
related to the security system when the modification switch is in the ON
position (circuit open). This is due to the way that the VCM/PCM interprets
this condition.

NOTICE
Any condition which removes battery power from the Vehicle Control
Module/Powertrain Control Module (VCM/PCM) (e.g. dead battery, disconnected
harness connectors, etc.) will prevent the vehicle from being restarted. If
the engine exhibits a ?cranks but will not start? symptom, place the
modification switch in the OFF (contacts closed) position. This will
reactivate the Passlock System and allow the vehicle to be started with the
ignition key




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