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Posted on Jun 15, 2009

My 4Y HiAce idles but the engine cuts out when I apply the slightest amount of acceleration. My thought is that the spark is not strong enough under load. Any ieas? Bruce

  • bruce844 Jun 16, 2009

    Dear Mazda9

    If you are referring to the ceramic resistor attached to the coil, that is working OK. In fact I have replaced the coil with no improvement...

    Update: I ran the motor with one of the HT leads off and attempted to accelerate. With the slight increase in motor speed (before it died) the spark did not deplete so now I am leaning more towards a carby problem. But for me the carburettor is a black art and I am not confident fiddling with it.

    Bruce

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I have a 4Y Motor I have replaced its Carby with a brand new one as I was sure this was the problem , now fitted with the new carby , it wont idle and back fires now and then.

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Suspect the ignition resistor... I don't know it's location on a HiAce

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like 99. do today, most do. lacking tools or skills.

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Diagnosis and Testing Secondary Spark Test These spark tester looks just like a spark plug, attach the clip to ground and crank the engine to check for spark 91052p10.jpg
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