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Hi. My name is DAN and I am responding to an E-mail sent to me by you asking for more detailed information about my vehicles problems. I went to advanced auto parts on 12/19/14. I used the check engine...

Replace the O2 sensors first, that may take care of the code you are getting saying catalytic converter. If you get the code after that I would think you would be able to just replace catalytic converter, but make sure the rest of the exhaust is clear. I have seen a piece fall down inside a muffler and plug it off giving problems also.
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After the MIL is turned off or the battery was disconnected for some time, all monitors are set to incomplete. However with several short trips with engine getting at least to hot enough for thermostat to open, (I believe 8 is the magic number of trips) most monitors are set, you may be able to pass the test with only one incomplete only.
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Catulyst monitor and evap system monitor and oxygen sensor not ready also P0501 code

Diagnostic Test Code (DTC) P0501 "Vehicle Speed Sensor Range/Performance"
DESCRIPTION
The Wheel Speed Sensor (WSS) generates a waveform with a frequency according to the speed of the vehicle. The signal generated by the WSS informs the ECM not only if the vehicle speed is low or high but also is stopped the vehicle or not. The ECM uses this signal to control the fuel injection, ignition timing, transmission/transaxle shift scheduling and torque converter clutch scheduling. Also the WSS signal is used to detect rough road driving condition.

Whenever Your OBD readiness monitors cannot complete it is because there is a problem that is affecting fuel mixture, ignition timing, or any other fault that can affect the level of tailpipe emissions. Once these faults are repaired, then the codes must be ereased so that the monitors can run and "re-test" the system to check for the same, or any other faults. The goal is for all the monitors to run and change to "complete" without any fault codes present.

In your case, the wheel speed sensor fault needs to be diagnosed and repaired so that the monitors will complete. Also note that one incomplete monitor can prevent other monitors from running. In your case, the catalyst monitor cannot run because the O2 sensor monitor is not complete. The catalyst monitor can only run AFTER the O2 sensors have received a "clean bill of health" from the O2 sensor monitor. The wheel speed sensor problem is keeping the O2 sensors from being tested.....So the wheel speed sensor problem is pretty much causing the whole thing.

Here's the kicker...If the vehicle has been driven in this condition for a period of time, there may be damage to the catalytic converters. The computer does not know this yet because the catalyst monitor cannot run. So it is possible that you can fix the wheel speed sensor thing, the O2 sensor monitors will complete, then when the catalyst monitor runs it could set a "catalyst efficiency" code. Then you will have to replace your catalytic converter to fix that. I'm not saying that this WILL happen on your vehicle, I am just saying that it CAN happen so you will not be confused IF it DOES happen. I see this all the time, and I have had customers accuse me of doing something to their car so I could sell them a high-dollar catalytic converter. This is simply not the case...I had no way of knowing that the converter had a problem because when I first received the car, the catalyst monitor was incomplete and there was not catalyst code present at the time.

So the only way to do this is to correct ALL fault codes one at a time until all monitors are complete and no fault codes are present.
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1997 Honda Civic did not pass smog due to O2 sensor heater fault failure, sensor 1, bank 1. If I replace the sensor, how do I get the check engine light reset?

the best way to reset it is with a scan tool.
disconnecting the battery for one minute will also remove the code.BUT
if your smog test uses an OBD scan as part of the process,then there will be a problem,because the monitors will not have been set,as they are reset if the battery is disconnected..
most tests allow only one monitor missing,and not the catalyst .
A drive cycle will have to be done to set the monitors.
Typically cold start coolant temp less than 50F,idle for 2 minutes no air condition, accelerate at half throttle to 50mph then drive 3 minutes with a/c on at 50mph steady.decelerate to 10mph without using brakes..Accelerate to 60mph and drive for 5 minutes at steady speed without a/c
deccelerate without braking and drive for 1 minute at 40mph.
stop the car ,use braking.
Shut off the car and add 4 gallons of gas.do not shut off the car for more than 5 minutes.
drive in 3rd gear or overdrive off with rpm 3000 for 1 minute.
decelerate to 10mph.without braking
accelerate to 40 mph in 4th gear.,or overdrive on
decelerate without braking to 10mph.
test complete.
this will set the o2 sensor heater ,o2 sensor,catalyst,evap purge.and the other monitors.
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I am in Virginia but I believe you vehicle is showing a monitors not ready for Catalyst & Evap. If that is correct you need to basically drive the car a few days. The computer will remonitor itself and should be fine following that. Most drive cycles require highway driving & city driving. Make sure you turn on a/c as well. Its not how many miles you drive but what conditions you drive that sets you monitors. You could locate the drive cycle and attempt to replicate it but its usually very difficult drive exactly as the cycle asks. Good luck.
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