Map sensor troubleshooting

MAP sensor is having low voltage input to the ECU

PO 748
service the transmission .....check solenoids

- Dirty transmission fluid - Low transmission fluid level - Faulty line pressure solenoid valve 'A' - Line pressure solenoid valve 'A' harness is open or shorted - Line pressure solenoid valve 'A' circuit poor electrical connection

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P0108
is the code for a problem with the MAP electrical circuit sensor having too high voltage input to the Engine Control Unit (ECU). This means that the voltage input to the ECU is too high and that it is not in the correct range for proper engine operation to work with inputs from the Mass Air Flow Sensor (MAF) and Throttle Position Switch (TPS). P0108 OBD II Trouble Code Manifold Air Pressure MAP Barometric Pressure...


odyssey map sensor is on the throttle body

Map sensor

code p 0107 refers to manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor/ barometric pressure (BARO) sensor--low input===causes wiring short to ground---map sensor--baro sensor---ECM
code p 0122 refers to
(1)throttle position(TP) sensor A/ pedal position (APP) sensor A --low input ===causes ---wiring short to ground --TP/APP sensor/s---ECM
(2)TP switch and APP switch A--low input===causes -same as (1)
(3) TP sensor B/accelerator pedal position switch B---circuit malfunction====causes --wiring open/short to ground/short to positive--TP/APP switch--- ECM

wow , you actually tried to look it up, a 1st time here.

the MAP is a baro sensor used to calculate fuel injection RATES.

if you have gross air leaks to the system the engine IDLE screams.

is it?

108 means the voltage is too high.

usually its unplugged, or bad sensor.

otential causes of a P0108 code: Bad MAP sensor Leak in vacuum supply line to MAP sensor Engine vacuum leak Short on signal wire to PCM Short on reference voltage wire from PCM Open in ground circuit to MAP Worn engine causing low vacuum



Bad MAP sensor Leak in vacuum supply line to MAP sensor Engine vacuum leak Short on signal wire to PCM Short on reference voltage wire from PCM Open in ground circuit to MAP Worn engine causing low vacuum



http://www.obd-codes.com/p0108



and last. but before ECU.

low engine compression, is 1 more, causes , many



what i do is reseat the MAP sensor

i then make sure he vacuum port is not clogged. (both sides)

i then measure the output , keyon, and idle and gunning throttle.

any Voltmeter works here,

key on is 5v or near.

idle 1.8v

gun engine as the RPMs fall like a rock the volts tries to hit 0.5vdc.



http://www.fixkick.com/look/odds-ends/jeep/MAP-sensor-output-real.jpg



very very easy to find with a voltmeter

if the meter agrees with vacuum gage, then the MAP is ok

and you have air leaks or low vacuum for (VAST reasons)

ask.

P0108 (M) MAP Sensor Voltage Too High, P0118 (M) ECT Sensor Voltage Too High Engine coolant temperture sensor input above the
maximum acceptable voltage, P0123 (M) Throttle Positon Sensor Voltage High Throttle position sensor input above the maximum
acceptable voltage range, P0522 Oil Pressure Sensor Low Oil pressure sensor input below acceptable voltage. Sounds like you have an electrical problem, either computer failure or bad sensors. It's hard to believe that you gained so many sensors just from replacing the cylinder head. Disconnect your battery for one minute, then reconnect. Try driving it down the road.

OBDII DTC

P1001 Key on engine running unable to complete; key on engine running aborted

P1100 Mass air flow sensor intermittent

P1101 Mass air flow sensor out of self test range

P1104 Mass Airflow (MAF) Sensor Ground Circuit Malfunction

P1107 Left MAP Sensor Circuit

P1108 Right MAP Sensor Circuit

P1112 IATS Circuit High Voltage

P1113 IATS Circuit Low Voltage

P1121 Pedal Position Sensor Circuit A Range/Performance

P1122 Pedal Position Sensor Circuit A Low Voltage

P1123 Pedal Position Sensor Circuit A High Voltage

P1137 No Rear HO2S Response

P1138 No Rear HO3S Response

P1157 No Rear HO2S Response

P1158 No Rear HO3S Response

P1171 All Cylinders Too Lean

P1172 All Cylinders Too Rich

P1176 Adaptive Fuel Metering Trim Too Lean

P1177 Adaptive Fuel Metering Trim Too Rich

P1178 Adaptive Fuel Metering Trim Too Lean

P1179 Adaptive Fuel Metering Trim Too Rich

P1187 Both Front HO2S Heater Circuits (High Resistance)

P1188 Both Front HO2S Heater Circuits (Open Short to Ground High Resistance)

P1190 Both Front HO2S Heater Circuits (High Battery Voltage Short to Voltage)

P1193 Both Front HO2S Heater Circuits (High Resistance MAF Sensor Fault)

P1194 Both Front HO2S Heater Circuits (Open Short to Ground High Resistance)

P1196 Both Front HO2S Heater Circuits (High Battery Voltage Short to Ground)

P1198 Fuel Level Sensor (High Voltage)

P1199 Fuel Level Sensor (Low Voltage)

P1201 No. 1 Fuel Injector

P1202 No. 2 Fuel Injector

P1203 No. 3 Fuel Injector

P1204 No. 4 Fuel Injector

P1205 No. 5 Fuel Injector

P1206 No. 6 Fuel Injector

P1221 Pedal Position Sensor Circuit B Range/Performance

P1222 Pedal Position Sensor Circuit B Low Voltage

P1223 Pedal Position Sensor Circuit B High Voltage

P1224 Electronic Throttle Control Position Error

P1226 Mechanical Guard Circuit Range Performance

P1227 Mechanical Guard Circuit Low Input

P1228 Mechanical Guard Circuit High Input

P1229 Throttle Control Circuit Malfunction

P1230 Fuel Pump Relay Malfunction

P1235 VSV 1 Circuit Range/Performance

P1236 VSV 1 Vacuum Circuit Failure

P1237 VSV 2 Atmosphere Circuit Failure

P1238 VSV 3 Release Circuit Failure

P1240 Throttle Position Sensor Voltage Malfunction//Sensor Reference Voltage Low (Throttle

Fuel Tank Pressure)

P1241 Throttle Position Sensor Voltage Low Input//Reference Voltage Low (Throttle Fuel

Tank Pressure)

P1242 Throttle Position Sensor Voltage High Input

P1243 Throttle Position Sensor Ground Malfunction

P1245 Crank Signal Low Input

P1246 Crank Signal High Input

P1313 Misfire Catalyst Damage Bank No. 1

P1314 Misfire Catalyst Damage Bank No. 2

P1315 Misfire Excess Emissions

P1316 Misfire Rate Above Limit

P1335 Crankshaft Position Sensor Circuit

P1336 Camshaft Position Sensor (CMP) Circuit Performance

P1361 Ignition Coil Primary Circuit (Cylinder No. 1)

P1362 Ignition Coil Primary Circuit (Cylinder No. 2)

P1363 Ignition Coil Primary Circuit (Cylinder No. 3)

P1364 Ignition Coil Primary Circuit (Cylinder No. 4)

P1365 Ignition Coil Primary Circuit (Cylinder No. 5)

P1366 Ignition Coil Primary Circuit (Cylinder No. 6)

P1367 Ignition Monitor (Bank A)//Ignition System Failure Group 1

P1368 Ignition Monitor (Bank B)//Ignition System Failure Group 2

P1371 Early Activation Ignition Coil (Cylinder No. 1)

P1372 Early Activation Ignition Coil (Cylinder No. 2)

P1373 Early Activation Ignition Coil (Cylinder No. 3)

P1374 Early Activation Ignition Coil (Cylinder No. 4)

P1375 Early Activation Ignition Coil (Cylinder No. 5)

P1376 Early Activation Ignition Coil (Cylinder No. 6)

P1392 Variable Valve Timing Solenoid A Low Input

P1393 Variable Valve Timing Solenoid A High Input

P1396 Variable Valve Timing Solenoid B Malfunction

P1397 Variable Valve Timing Solenoid B Low Input

P1398 Variable Valve Timing Solenoid B High Input

P1400 EGR Valve Position Circuit (Valve Sticking Open or Short)

P1401 EGR Valve Position Circuit (Open Short to Ground)

P1408 EGR Temperature Sensor Circuit

P1409 EGR Valve Circuit

P1440 EVAP Purge Valve Open

P1441 EVAP Valve Circuit

P1443 EVAP Valve Circuit

P1447 EVAP Valve Circuit

P1448 EVAP Valve Circuit

P1454 EVAP System

P1474 Charge Air Coolant Pump Relay

P1475 Radiator Fans Slow Malfunction

P1476 Radiator Fans Fast Parallel Circuit Malfunction

P1506 Idle Speed Control Circuit (Low RPM; Bank B)

P1507 Idle Speed Control Circuit (High RPM; Bank B)

P1508 Idle Speed Control Circuit

P1509 Idle Speed Control Circuit

P1512 Throttle Position Sensor Idle Switch Sense Circuit

P1513 Throttle Position Sensor Idle Switch Sense Circuit

P1514 Park/Neutral Position Switch High Load Neutral/Drive

P1516 Gear Change Park/Neutral Malfunction

P1517 Engine Cranking Park/Neutral Malfunction

P1607 MIL Output Circuit

P1608 Automatic Transmission

P1609 Internal ECM Error

P1641 Fuel Pump Relay No. 1

P1646 Fuel Pump Relay No. 2

P1739 Automatic Transmission

P1775 Transmission Control Module MIL Circuit

P1776 Torque Reduction Request Signal

P1777 Torque Reduction Circuit

P1780 Automatic Transmission

P1781 Automatic Transmission

P1782 Automatic Transmission

P1783 Automatic Transmission

P1785 Automatic Transmission

P1790 Automatic Transmission

P1791 Automatic Transmission

P1792 Automatic Transmission
P1794 Automatic Transmission

Hi,
OBD II Fault Code

• OBD II P0108

Fault Code Definition
The Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor/Barometric Pressure Sensor measures the rise and fall of the air pressure inside the Intake Manifold. This provides critical data needed for the Power Train Control Module (PCM) to control the Air Fuel Ratio, the Ignition Spark Timing, and many components of the Emissions Control Systems. The Manifold Absolute Pressure/Barometric Pressure Sensor converts the Intake Manifold air pressure into a voltage that is high when the Intake Manifold air pressure is high and low when the Intake Manifold air pressure drops to a vacuum. The P0108 code indicates a high voltage input from the Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor/Barometric Pressure Sensor to the Power Train Control Module.
Symptoms

• Check Engine Light will illuminate
• In many cases, no abnormal symptoms may be noticed
• In some cases, the engine may be hard starting and/or get poor fuel economy
• In some cases, noticeably poor engine performance may occur

Common Problems That Trigger the P0108 Code

• Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor/Barometric Pressure Sensor is defective
  
• Intake Manifold vacuum leaks
• Faulty or corroded Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor/Barometric Pressure wiring or connections

Common Misdiagnoses

• Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor/Barometric Pressure Sensor is replaced when the real cause is an Intake Manifold vacuum leak
  
• Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor/Barometric Pressure Sensor is replaced when the real cause is a stuck-open EGR Valve
• Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor/Barometric Pressure Sensor is replaced when the real problem is a defective Idle Air Control Motor, which causes a very low engine idle

TESTING-MAP- A vacuum line runs from the sensor mounted high to the intake manifold so it can measure the vacuum in the intake manifold. NOTE: Unusually high or low barometric pressures can generate a false DTC for the MAP sensor. If no driveability symptoms accompany the MAP code, do not replace it.

1. Connect a MAP/BARO tester to the sensor connector and sensor harness connector. With ignition ON and engine OFF, use DVOM to measure voltage across tester terminals. If the tester's 4-6V indicator is ON, the reference voltage input to the sensor is okay. NOTE: The green light on the tester indicates that the VREF circuit is okay, 4-6 volts. A red light or no light indicates the VREF is either too low or too high.
   
2. Measure the reference signal of the MAP sensor. If the DVOM voltage reading is as indicated in the table, the sensor is okay.
   1. Turn the ignition OFF.
   2. Disconnect the vacuum hose from the MAP sensor and connect a vacuum pump in its place.
   3. Apply 18 in. Hg of vacuum to the MAP sensor.
   4. If the MAP sensor holds vacuum, it is okay. If the MAP sensor does not hold vacuum, it must be replaced. Fig. 1: Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor
      Fig. 2: MAP sensor altitude/voltage output relationship
      Fig. 3: MAP sensor frequency data
      

P0107 - Manifold Absolute Pressure/Barometric Pressure Circuit Low Input

The Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor responds to changes in the intake manifold pressure (vacuum). 5 Volts is supplied to the sensor from the PCM (powertrain control module). Inside the MAP sensor is a resistor that moves in relation to manifold pressure. The resistor varies the voltage between about 1 volt to 4.5 volts (depending on engine load) and that voltage signal is returned to the PCM to indicate manifold pressure (vacuum). This signal is essential for the PCM to determine fuel delivery. A P0107 DTC is set when the PCM sees that the MAP signal voltage is less than .25 volts which is too low.

Potential Symptoms: Anytime the MAP sensor signal is low the vehicle will likely have a very difficult time starting. Other symptoms may include:
* Hard to start
* Long cranking times
* Sputtering/missing
* Blowing black smoke
* Poor fuel economy
* Dies intermittently
* MIL(Malfunction Indicator Lamp) illumination

Causes: The causes of a low MAP sensor signal circuit (P0107) could be any of the following:
* Bad MAP sensor
* Open or short in the signal circuit
* Open or short in the 5 Volt reference circuit
* Ground circuit open or shorted
* Bad PCM

Possible Solutions: First, using a scan tool with the Key on and engine running, monitor the MAP sensor voltage. If it is reading less than .5 volts, turn engine off, unplug the MAP sensor and, using a DVOM (Digital Volt/Ohm Meter) check for 5Volts on the 5 Volt reference circuit.

1. If there is not 5 Volts on the reference circuit, then check for the reference voltage at the PCM connector. If it is present at the PCM connector but not the MAP connector, repair the open in the reference circuit between the PCM and MAP harness connector. If 5 Volt reference is NOT present at the PCM connector, check powers and grounds of PCM and repair/replace as needed. (NOTE: On Chrysler products, a shorted Crank sensor, Vehicle speed sensor or any other sensor that utilizes the 5 Volt reference from the PCM can short out the 5 Volt reference. To fix simply unplug each sensor one at a time until the 5 Volt reference reappears. The last sensor unplugged is the shorted sensor.)

2. If you have a 5 Volt reference at the MAP connector, jumper the 5 volt reference circuit to the signal circuit. Now check the MAP voltage on the scan tool. It should be 4.5 to 5 Volts. If it is, replace MAP sensor. If not, repair open/short in the signal circuit wiring and re-check.

3. If all appears okay, perform a wiggle test. Start engine and manipulate the harness, connector and tap on the MAP sensor. Note any changes in voltage or engine speed. Repair connector, harness, or sensor as needed.

4. If the wiggle test checks out, use a vacuum pump (or just use your lungs) to draw a vacuum on the MAP sensor vacuum port. As you add vacuum the voltage should decrease. With no vacuum, the MAP sensor should read approximately 4.5 volts. If there is no change in MAP sensor reading on the scan tool, replace MAP sensor.

MAP Sensor DTC's: P0105, P0106, P0107, P0108 and P0109.

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P0108 (M)
Manifold Absolute Pressure/Barometric Pressure Circuit High Input
MAP sensor input above maximum acceptable voltage.

P0113 (M)
Intake Air Temperature Circuit High Input
Intake air (charge) temperature sensor input above the maximum acceptable voltage.


P0508 (M)
Idle Air Control Motor Circuit Low
Idle Air Control Motor Circuit input below acceptable current.

THESE DIFNITIONS ARE FROM THE FACTORY REPAIR MANUAL, LOOKS LIKE YOU MAY HAVE A WIRING HARNESS PROBLEM OR DISCONNECTED COMPONENTS, CHECK THE IAT AND MAP SENSOR AN MAKE SURE THEY ARE CONNECTED.