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Car overheating what causes the car to overheat the dealer says the water pump is fine

  • shoop006 Apr 23, 2009

    could it be the cat

  • shoop006 May 07, 2009

    WELL REPLACED THE T STAT AND WATER PUMP AND STILL DOSE THE SAME

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Most cars have a thermostat on the return to the engine block. It is designed to open and close at a certain temperature range. This is what helps to regulate the water temperature circulating through your engine. These thermostat valves get old, corrosion can build on them, or the coil that's responsible for opening it at the designed temperature quits opening all the way or all together.

Things to check for in your particular vehicle type:

1) Coolant Temperature Sensor
2) Radiator (Make sure have the right mixture of water to coolant ratio)
3) Engine fan (cools water in the radiator)
4) Thermostat (opens and closes allowing water to circulate through engine)
5) Of course, the water pump which you said tested fine.

I can be of more assistance if necessary.

  • Jerry Apr 23, 2009

    Well, it would depend where exactly where the cat would have gotten stuck! ;-)

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Thermostat, water pump, plugged radiator, blown head gasket? I tinker with autos, but on a very basic level.

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Well, at that stage, decided to just tow car home, and fix there so I rented UHAUL truck and tow dolly ($350 US), plus the gas such a vehicle consumes.

Take to NW Indiana garage, and they say,

check water pump to see if defective ($650), replace water pump if defective, and if not defective, pull heads to inspect for blown head gasket (an additional $450 labor). Said exhause gases could be internally leaking into the coolant (because bad head gasket) and causing the car to overheat. Said may consider just putting in a used engine- may be cheaper. Well I know the previous owner, and the car was maticulously kept, so I say I need to think it over. Drove car home (about 2 miles) and coolant temp gage didn't budge an inch- coolant level was fine, so who knows what happened to it...

Checked from garage that replaced the water pump, and said it was a dealership new waterpump that was installed, with all new gaskets, and did NOT replace timing chain.

Go and talk to dad (aren't dad's great!). Dad has rebuild many motors in his day- was a millright who completly rebuilt from scratch Model A's , 1940's sedans, and some cars in the 1970s and 1980s. Successfully rebuilt 2 automatic transmissions in the 70s and 80s as well. Dad's getting up in age (mid seventies) so didn't want to burdeon him, just wanted his input. He said, consider water pump, but he seemed to remember a test you could do on the coolant to check for exhaust gases. After trips to 4 local Auto parts stores (some "fake" ones like Autozone, and a couple real ones), found a guy who knew of the test, and ordered one for me. So, for $40, hopefully will be able to see if there are exhaust gases in the coolant, indicating a blown head gasket.

Will have to make some decisions based on test results. Have about $1600 or so in car already. May try to do work myself- who knows!

Just trying to explain my overheating issues, and giving some insight into potential causes, and remedies that were explored in my case so they may be of help with you.
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