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I have a 2004 Saturn Ion 2.2L. Check engine light is on. Has two codes, PO174 Bank 2 lean, and PO401 Egr Flow problem. I looked for the EGR valve, but there is only a plate covering the spot where it should be. Not sure where to go from here. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Someone removed the egr. or someone replaced the engine with a non egr engine. if the engine was changed you ether need to put an egr system on it or change the computer with one made for an egr exempt engine.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 06, 2008

SOURCE: ford explorer 2002 v-8 code po401 low flow on obd-2

Replacement engine put in with 51000 miles and now the engine light is on and the speedometer goes from 50 to 0 and then jerks

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 28, 2009

SOURCE: Service engine code indicates EGR valve.

You could have a restriction in the egr ports. remove the valve. Plug the holes, start engine. 1 hole will be blowing out exhaust, the other will have large vacuum.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 12, 2009

SOURCE: 1996 Mercury Sable with a

Before replacing anything else, it's important to clear the code before determining any more repairs are necessary. You can take the car to an autoparts store that features free diagnostic tests or you can disconnect the negative battery cable for 10 minutes to clear it. If after clearing the code P0401 still appears, then it comes down to 1 of 2 problems:

  1. Replace the DPFE sensor
  2. Replace the EGR valve
An illustration of both are found at the link below:
http://www.chiltonlibrary.com/content/images/9117/images/91174p58.gif

The DPFE is located at #1
The EGR is #2
Best of luck with your Sable.
Greg

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SOURCE: Replacing EGR Valve on '00 Sonata 2.4L...Got a

Go to www.hmaservice.com and register( Vehicle by VIN). Afterward, you have access to shop manuals, service bulletins, wiring diagrams, etc. about your vehicle.
NOTE:.. EGR RESTRICTION POSSIBLE between exhaust manifold and EGR valve... check it out before replacing valve.... replacing the valve may not be the solution... having it properly diagnosed is!

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Rough idle vibrates and po171 code service engine soon. [email protected]

Hi, a Ford P0171 is a LEAN code for cylinder bank 1, and P0174 is a LEAN code for cylinder bank 2. These codes commonly occur on many Ford vehicles, and are set when the powertrain control module (PCM) sees the air/fuel mixture is running too lean (too much air, not enough fuel).
When the Check Engine Light comes on, either one of these codes, or both, may be found when a code reader or scan tool is plugged into the vehicle diagnostic connector. IF the vehicle is driven long enough, typically both codes will be set.
A P0171 lean code for bank 1 is the cylinder bank on the RIGHT (passenger) side of the engine on Ford vehicles with a V6 or V8 engine and rear-wheel drive.


A lean fuel condition may exist if the engine is sucking in too much air and/or the fuel system is not delivering enough fuel. If bad enough, a lean fuel condition may cause lean misfire, a rough idle, hesitation or stumble when accelerating, and/or poor engine performance.
Unmetered air can enter the engine through a vacuum leak, a dirty airflow sensor that is not reading airflow accurately, an EGR valve is not closing and is leaking exhaust into the intake manifold, an EGR valve that is allowing too much flow (because the EGR differential pressure sensor that monitors EGR flow is faulty and is under-reporting EGR flow).
If the problem is not enough fuel, the underling cause may be a weak fuel pump, restricted fuel filter, leaky fuel pressure regulator or dirty fuel injectors.

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Po174

A P0174 lean code for bank 2 is the cylinder bank on the LEFT (driver) side of the engine on Ford vehicles with a transverse-mounted V6 engine and front-wheel drive. This code is not set on four cylinder engines (no bank 2).
WHAT A LEAN CODE MEANS
A lean fuel condition may exist if the engine is sucking in too much air and/or the fuel system is not delivering enough fuel. If bad enough, a lean fuel condition may cause lean misfire, a rough idle, hesitation or stumble when accelerating, and/or poor engine performance . Unmetered air can enter the engine through a vacuum leak, a dirty airflow sensor that is not reading airflow accurately, an EGR valve is not closing and is leaking exhaust into the intake manifold, an EGR valve that is allowing too much flow (because the EGR differential pressure sensor that monitors EGR flow is faulty and is under-reporting EGR flow).
If the problem is not enough fuel, the underling cause may be a weak fuel pump, restricted fuel filter, leaky fuel pressure regulator or dirty fuel injectors.
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Check engine error code PO174

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A VACUME LEAK, A DIRTY AIRFLOW SENSOR,
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IF ITS NOT GETING ENOUGH FUEL THE FUEL PUMP COULD BE BAD, THE AIR FILTER COULD BE DIRTY
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ID TRY FUEL INJECTOR CLEANER AND A NEW AIR FILTER FIRST
THEN TRY CLEANING YOUR EGR VALVE. COPY THIS LINK TO YOUR BROWSER FOR
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www.ehow.com/how_4809842_clean-ford-taurus-egr-valve.html

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How many miles are on the car? It could be one of three things.
1. Check vaccum lines running to the valve covers. The rubber nipple that connects to the valve cover sometimes gets a hole.
2. Could be 02 sensor depending if its lean on bank 1 or bank 2.
3. Also check DPFE hose's. Located on back of motor running from EGR valve exhuast tube.
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