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I have replaced the spark plugs, wires, coil, distributor cap & rotor, coil wire and my 92 wrangler, 4.0 L HO will crank but not start. I pulled a plug and grounded the casing, cranked the engine and no spark. This problem has been periodic for a while as the jeep would stop running when driving after a few minutes or an hour. The last time this happened, I pulled the coil wire off and put it back on and it started. Sometimes when you wait an hour, it will restart. Does anyone have a clue of the problem. Is there a process to check the pick up switch in the distributor to see if it is faulty? Does this device switch the supply voltage to the coil? Does anyone have a wiring schematic of the starting circuit?

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A good start, (no pun) spark renewed parts
good. always good. a full tune up.. for real. (spark)

that distrib device is called a CMP, cam sensor!
the flywheel has CKP sensors. to...

but the reason you cant find this is you lacking a scan tool.
the PCM can cuts spark for many reasons.
the ASD relays does that. by command of the PCM

The PCM drops the relay for 1 to 8 reasons.
minus 1 , your car has no IMMO SKIM key.
but here is how to diagnose all JEEPS, (not fake MK jeeps)
first is to understand the ASD relay.
http://jeepdied.com/ASD.html

to do the tests takes 2 persons, unless you are a Xmen. guy.
the JEEP LAW OF 2 SECONDS must not be ignored,
2 full seconds. rule.
this rule applies to spark and fuel,

1:fuses good. test them.
(key on CEL glows, check engine lamp must glow or PCM has no power) does yours?
2: man 1, cranks. (car can crank with DEAD PCM) yup.
3: man 2 , (or WOman) tests spark using a test spark plug
at say #1 front, (easy bend over) lazy we are.
use a real spark plug. ok>? new. or not shorted.,
you ground the shell (this is a 100 year old test, not magic and is done by every mech, alive.) google how to test spark
and not get electrocuted, (got a pace maker?, keep hands in pockets)
4: the key on ASD closes and engine cranks and spark happens for 2 seconds, or not, if the spark ends just as the ASD drops
you KNOW NOW FOR A FACT THE PCM DID THAT ON PURPOSE>
a hard cold fact.
if there was not spark for 2 full seconds, then sparks dead.
the PCM must be scanned.,
if you cant scan you get to shot gun all day.
i have a scope , you dont but i can see if the pcm is pulsing the COIL.
you cant. so get to guess that too.
if the PCM is not pulsing said coil (lets pretend coil is good, i can bench test them, easy)
then the PCM has BAD INPUTS>
CMP
or CKP
tops the list. of shot guns, seems like 1000s replaced here
and not one fixes it.... but goes on.. .. and on because....

best is to own a scan tool to fix any jeep 1991 to now.
or go broke every time a part gives up the ghosts.

the keyon 3 times tests.
can find problems , but NEVER ALL problems, its blind to many.
its just toy really, but has value, if if works.

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It is possibly the O2 sensor. I had some issues with early 90's 4.0 liters where the O2 sensor would stick rich under heavy acceleration and would cause it to lean out and bog down. It felt like a rochester four barrel flat spot on an old chevy. I hope this helps.

dougbender51

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then i would replace whats called the hall effect sensor its that black plastic plate you see when you take dist cap off. just pull rotor and lift up the sensor.dist cap is what holds it on.also under the sensor will be a stamped sheet metal piece that looks like the top of a castle wall. make sure its not loose on the shaft.if it is then new dist will be needed

jturcotte

Jeffrey Turcotte

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  • Posted on Apr 03, 2011

SOURCE: my honda oddessey 1995, my

Hi, since you've replaced everything else, about the only thing left is the crankshaft position sensor. This is the sensor the computer uses to time the spark signals. Because this sensor is expensive, I recommend you test it first to verify it's bad before replacing. I have pasted test procedures below as well as replacement procedure in case it fails the tests. You will need an ohmmeter for the test. If you don't have an ohmmeter, you can buy one for as little as $10, or maybe you can borrow one. You will also need a timing light if you replace the sensor. Please let me know if you have questions, and thanks for using FixYa.


TESTING CRV and 1995 Odyssey Models

  1. With the ignition switch OFF , detach the electrical connector on the side of the distributor housing.
  2. Measure the resistance between the following two CKP wires:

    CRV models: The blue and white wires. The resistance should be 300-700 ohms. 1995 Odyssey models: The blue/green and blue/yellow wires. The resistance should be 700-1,300 ohms.
  3. If the resistance is not in the specified range, replace the distributor ignition housing.


REMOVAL & INSTALLATION CRV and 1995 Odyssey Models

  1. Remove the negative battery cable.
  2. Remove the distributor cap leaving the wires attached and place aside.
  3. Disconnect the electrical connectors at the side of the distributor housing.
  4. Make a matchmark reference mark between the distributor housing and the cylinder head and remove the distributor housing assembly.

To install:
  1. Transfer the components not supplied with the replacement distributor housing assembly.
  2. Install the distributor housing assembly in the reverse order of removal.

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Fig. Fig. 2: The Crankshaft Position (CKP) Sensor rotor looks like a small gear in the lower distributor housing- CRV and 1995 Odyssey models



7. Check and reset the ignition timing as outlined below.

ADJUSTMENT CRV and 4-Cylinder Odyssey Models



If equipped with an automatic transaxle, place the shifter in Park or Neutral. If equipped with a manual transaxle place the shifter in Neutral. Make sure to apply the parking brake and block the drive wheels.


  1. With the heater off and in the full cold position, start the engine and hold the engine speed at 3000 rpm, until the radiator fan comes on at least one time. To check the ignition timing, the engine must be at idle speed and at normal operating temperature. Make sure all electrical consumers (defroster, radio, air conditioning, lights, etc.,) are turned OFF.
  2. Locate the blue plastic Service Check (SCS) Connector, as follows:

    Odyssey models with 4-cylinder engines: centrally located on the passenger side, under the dash. The connector has two wires; one is brown with a black tracer, and the other wire is red.

See Figures 1 and 2

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Fig. Fig. 1: The inductive lead of the timing light is placed around the No. 1 spark plug wire; and the light is aimed toward the marks on the crankshaft pulley.


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Fig. Fig. 2: The red ignition timing mark on the crankshaft pulley is lined up with the pointer. The two small notches on either side of the red colored notch represent the plus (+) or minus (-) 2° increments. The white notch to the far right is Top Dead Center (TDC)

  1. Connect the SCS service connector tool number 07PAZ-0010100 or equivalent to the service connector. A paper clip can be substituted for the tool by forming a "U" shaped bend in the paper clip and carefully inserting it into the back side of the SCS service connector terminals. The purpose of the tool is simply to connect the two wires together temporarily.
  2. Connect a timing light to No. 1 ignition wire and point the light toward the pointer on the timing belt cover.
  3. Check the idle speed and adjust if necessary.
  4. The red mark on the crankshaft pulley should be aligned with the pointer on the timing belt cover.
The white mark on the crank pulley is Top Dead Center (TDC).
  1. Adjust the ignition timing by loosening the distributor mounting bolts and rotating the distributor housing to adjust the timing. Set as follows:
    2.2L/2.3L Odyssey 2.2L models: 13-17° at 650-750 rpm
  2. Tighten the distributor bolts to 17 ft. lbs. (24 Nm) and recheck the timing.
  3. Remove the SCS service connector or the substituted paper clip from the SCS service plug.

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